I don't think you guys were listening too carefully to the presentations, or maybe you didn't ask enough questions afterwards. I learned that the Rubicon proposal doesn't ask for more public money than the others. The majority of their housing is market rate and low income. Only the condo hotel has higher-end units and my understanding is that is the last phase of the development. I also understand that their phase 1 housing comes onlin 2012 which for a development of this size is just around the corner.