There are a lot of lessons to be learned here I hope we don't move on to fast

---Mark--- I’m not sure if you’re so angry that you are not seeing what I am saying, purposefully trying to keep this argument on the wrong topic/trolling, or if I just am not articulating my responses to you clear enough. I will only give this one more shot. You’re style, and that of GLAADs, of combating this issue is not going to make matters better for you in the long run. You will only get an apology like the one you are getting from the show Thursday morning, a meaningless one . And on top of that you will push people that may have been middle of the road on issues you care about further away from you. It is a lose/lose proposition for everyone involved. For the record I never saw anything in the broadcast that pointed toward Arnie encouraging anyone to beat their children we will simply have to disagree on this point as well. Keep your pyrrhic victory if you must, there are far too many of them going around for my liking. I look forward to your response if any…

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Mark… Companies are very capable of placing their Ad dollars in the right place I agree, however taking your Ad dollars from the #1 rated radio show (by a wide margin) is not smart business. It can also not be truthfully said that these companies would have pulled their Ad money had it not been for pressure from GLAAD. Do you really think that these companies employ people to scan the stations they advertise on to make sure that there is nothing offensive going on? My point isn’t whether or not either Rob or Arnie would have come around or not, or whether anyone else would for that matter. My point is that by going with the attack first approach you are automatically making that choice for them which is just as wrong as what they said. All of this still seems to me to be for naught as the show looks on track to survive this and the sponsors will come running back when this wind has blown enough on this subject…I have yet to be told what any of you intend to do when that happens. Fubar… Boycotting the advertisers that left is also not the answer. These companies are also doing what they must to survive, no business wants bad press to this degree and though sad it is still a fact of life that this tactic can and will work. If you were to be successful in such a boycott the only thing you would accomplish is more un-employed people and a harder economy to live in. The only real answer is to educate all parties to be more adult and rational in their thought process and to be able to have a reasonable dialogue with people that do not agree with you. Two wrongs do not make a right, I am not absolving the Rob, Arnie and Dawn show of what they said, but I will not give a pass to the people that react just as badly without thinking and trying to solve the problem in a constructive way.

The only way this (the statement from Williams) reads to me is that he is caving to the pressure of losing advertisers and is taking the necessary steps to save his company and his show. This is not a win for anyone, those that support Rob, Arnie and Dawn lose because they have to face the harsh reality that the show went further than it should have and the world is a different place than they want to believe it is. Where as those that support the Lesbian, Gay, Transgender movement are losing because the show will more than likely stay on the air, and they are losing the support of people they may need. Granted in your anger you may not see why you would need or want people that love the show to be on your side, however in a fight to change hearts and minds you need all of the people not just some of them. Tactics like this(advertising attacks) only serve to harden the hearts of people that might have otherwise come to your side one day. I truly feel that GLAAD has damaged their own cause in the eyes of many “straight” people that would have supported them. To a point Prop 8 had the same effect, many people branded Prop 8 as against or outside of the “will of the people” wrongly. However this mind set was not countered and I feel (anecdotally) that a good portion of our state voted for prop 8 because of this reason. It gave people an excuse, “I don’t hate gay people, I just don’t think they are doing it the right way”. Sound like a similar argument? Lastly I would like to say that while this is a heated subject many people on various different forums have been very aggressive in their support or condemnation of the show. You do understand that it’s not helping either cause? It’s just more of the same turn off that the tactic of bullying advertisers is. Is it that hard to argue a subject passionately without resorting to rhetoric and mud slinging?