I am sorry Kris, but expressing different views is one thing, outright lying is another, and that is what you and the other expats are doing. I am sure that your father is not one of the exploiters of Mexico that sets up phony substandard sweat shops to exploit the Mexican people, especially the women, and makes the environment un-livable around them. He would not be involved in contributing to the rapes and murders of hundreds of Mexican female fabrica workers in Ciudad Juarez were the rich fabrica owners will not even light the parking lots the women have to walk through to get to and from work. I am sure of that. No decent Human Being would do such a thing. I was not privileged to live in the big cities (actually I did not want to), and only traveled there once in a while, and when I was desperately ill. I was fortunate enough to live in a small fishing village on the central west coast of Mexico, called, off all things, Aticama in the state of Nayarit, Municipal San Blas. I think at the most there were about 5-9 other Americans, Canadians, and European there at one time, and it only had one public phone. On my wife’s Rancho we had no electricity, no running water, and washed body and clothing in a 20 ft jungle waterfall. I was a gringo in paradise. So you are far better educated in the big city and expat compounds then I, by your own admission. I traveled all the time to the capitol city of Nayarit, Tepic, and in nine years only saw two people sleeping on the streets at night. I was astonished to see that because it was so rare. In Aticama and the surrounding villages the ajidos gave homes to mentally ill people to live in. I know because my wife was a member and spokesperson in the ajido of Aticama, and I saw it happen. What you, trapper and thsas are touting are just blatant lies from expats that live in gringo compounds because basically they do not like America or Mexicans. I met plenty like you down there. Spending several months a year in Mexico and still paying 47% I am sure that your Mexican home is in one of the gated villas that cordon off the beaches so even the Mexicans cannot swim in their own oceans. And because of you everything is priced so high that the locals cannot even afford to shop in their own markets and buy the basic needs for survival. I would give you a URL to the site with pictures of how I lived in Mexico with my indigenous wife (half Huichol and half Cora), but I would not want you going over there spewing your lies about the culture, as they are in enough trouble at this time because of interference from do-gooding gringas like yourself. People that are more worries about the Mexican dogs and cats then the people. I willl give you a blind site where I store some of my pics. http://prose-workshop.com/chavie@me.bmp http://prose-workshop.com/easterpuddingl.jpg http://prose-workshop.com/water8.jpg http://prose-workshop.com/roof4.jpg http://prose-workshop.com/waterfall8.jpg http://prose-workshop.com/tub2.jpg http://prose-workshop.com/chavieandchavie.jpg http://prose-workshop.com/mother.jpg http://prose-workshop.com/hut1.jpg You know nothing of Mexico except what you see from the barred window in you villa. If the medical treatment in Mexico is so bad, why do over one million Californians alone go to Mexico each year for treatment. It cost $250US+- a year to get full coverage medical in Mexico, this includes everything, I know I pay for my wife’s IMSS in Mexico each year. I know what I am for, fixed terms, fixed taxes, and freedom of choice, and I have never been involved in any kind of law enforcement. You just struck out. Even if ANYTHING you have said about the Mexican people was true, they still take better care of their elderly, infirmed, and mentally impaired then us, the great advanced white race, does. Please show me a site that can dispute any of the Social services I wrote about in my statement. Something else you should have learned from the people while down there. Poverty is not the lack of things as we whites judges it; poverty is the lack of compassion in your heart for other people. So, povresita para tu. As to your ramblings above, go back and retake your junior high school debating class, you must of failed it the first time around. God Bless America. http://www.imss.gob.mx/ http://www.issste.gob.mx/index2.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Mexico http://www.medtogo.com/mexico-health-care-system.html I can get a lot more if you wrongly informed need further education.

Oh, I understand my bad. If a conservative American calls someone a dimwit for outright lying, that is a no-no, Right Casey? But if one of your liberal crones insults a conservative, well that gets a good mark. Here is a quote from Bill Albertson from a different string. But I did not see you pop your little head up and correct him. “Actually, advocate has had an account with activity on sacpress prior to today- unlike yourself (tpierce2), aticama, czfuller, and artsydee47. You need to work on your banter and astroturfing scripts a bit, maybe appear to be involved in the community (other than mentioning the Bee), before you start casting aspersions as to who is a "plant", ok?” Well, I had not called anyone anything until them, and since Bill was a long time authority on the subject and called us astroterfers, I just assumed return is fair play. I will defiantly apologies for calling anyone a dimwit, and will just say in the future they are not very smart, and basically know nothing about the health system in Mexico. “So those irresponsible anti-American clowns mislead the public in order to stir up emotion.” Advocate. “What an imbecile” Jim Knapp “I think you're a plant, but that's irrelevant.” Ayatollah Gondola I have seen other references to conservatives on this site as tea baggers, astroterfers, and conservative idiots in which you did not pull your little lecture on. So if you are going to play the “your being bad game, at least try to apply it with the appearance of equality. But you do condone outright lies and misinformation, right? Because there is enough of it on all of these blogs. God Bless Amercia

TP, we are indeed in for some very bad times ahead, and shortly. Van Jones, his new green czar, is a self-proclaimed Marxist. When he lived in San Francisco, he was heavily involved with STORM, or Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement. A group explicitly committed to revolutionary Marxist politics whose points of unity were revolutionary democracy, revolutionary feminism, and revolutionary internationalism, the central role of the working class, urban Marxism, and Third World Communism. "In December 2002 STORM dissolved due to internal tensions and rivalries. Its most notable leader was Van Jones, who would go on to become President Barack Obama's “Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation” in 2009. " http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7491 This is the type of people he is going to enlist in his attempt to socialize this country. We have to continue on with the tea party movement, but we must organize into a party with a specific set of goals. See my handle you asked me about. Ad @comcast.net and email me if you wish. God Bless America

Maid Marion You should stay away from that old soul coffee, or at least switch to decaff. God Bless America.

Well, I do call um as I see um. And I saw a lot of expats like you that sat around complaining about how much they hated the US, and down talked to the Mexicans to make themselves feel superior. That’s what those expat compounds are all about. I am sorry that I called you a dimwit, though; you most likely have not risen to that level of intelligence. God Bless America