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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

Thanks for the info I am going to read it now. Once more you are appreciated! Much respect I just read Cosmos blog! Thanks for posting the info. He wrote the truth! Some may be afraid of the truth, for some the truth may hurt, some might can't handle the truth but for those of us who have become commodities... the truth will set us free! I loved it!

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

In the words of Mark Twain, ‘Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” That said, I took your advice and read many articles and the opinion of many towards Frank Rizzo and his brother. And in my opinion, Tynsdale is Johnson’s brother- by another mother lol. I’ve learned Rizzo while police commissioner was boisterous and brooding, particularly to the media” just as Tyndale and as mayor “Rizzo's debacles with the media continued… He was known for frequently holding press conferences, where he discussed various relevant and irrelevant matters, often in colorful language and a bombastic attitude.” -- lol -- just as Johnson. But seriously, after reading your comment, I spent most of the morning actually reading a great deal and saw more similarities between Rizzo/ Johnson/ Tyndale and Philly/ Sac. While I appreciate your comment and opinion I have to disagree with you, and it seems I do have insight into rein of control existing in Sacramento in this era and quite frankly the similarities (Rizzo’ brothers/ Johnson/ SPOA) far outweigh any differences you may want to discuss. Their is always three sides to a story, his, hers and the truth. I read what many had to say of the Rizzo brothers and I've learned over the years to listen, read, consider all sides...

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

Phillip, I do appreciate your advice. With all due respect, I do have an idea on the type of rein of control SPOA has held over the city of Sacramento. Whether or not it can, in your opinion, be compared to the rein of control Frank Rizzo and his brother held in Philadelphia in 1977 is not a factor for me. I’m from a community in severe pain - a community divided into victims and suspects - watching SPOA manipulate many as we die, and die, and die. Our children are dying on our streets and even more living to die in prisons and this city is a contributing factor, due to neglect of resources in efforts… Our children are a commodity as city representatives and specifically our mayor feeds the belly of the beast, SPOA, greed. I'll research anything suggested to me until the walls of Jericho fall all around this greedy city.

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

D Fong, is actually doing his job- his current position- as a city public servant and doing it quite well looking after not just his district but the entire city as a whole... giving his salary back to the city. While our mayor is having the city pay for his personal police chauffer. (that he criticized Fargo for) D Fong is a rare breed and a welcome asset to the council. And we are lucky that for him it's not politics as usual. Unlike Ashby, I don't think D Fong is going to fall prey to Tyndale’s games. He knows he was voted into office on his merits and not due to an endorsement. He also knows he will remain in office with integrity and not due to an endorsement. D. Fong is not having fun, but he's not a quiter. He doesn't need the job to give him fulfullment or self-esteem, so he will perform his duties with integrity and not care about the criticism. He follows his heart. He's not trying to make friends he is trying to help the city And quiet is kept, Tynsdale needs to back off of D. Fong, since Fong was in the department for 30yrs and knows all too well were cuts can really be made within the SPD. Tyndale is playing with fire and he will get burned. My bet is on Fong to come out the fight without a scratch. The quiet ones are always the one to watch lol. The loud one (Tyndale) will give his hand every time he has a big ego. Tyndale is fighting so hard against D. Fong and fighting so hard for the mayor to have control of the budget because he‘s scared- desperate people do desperate things. Tynsdale is scared SPOA is losing their control of the city council and he is working hard with Johnson to maintain it through Charter change. Fong’s not scared of Tyndale, Tyndale is scared of Fong lol thats the reason for his mean spirited public display against Fong. Thank you for the information you provided. You are greatly appreciated!

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

fifthgensacramentar: thank you for the link. I just read the article. I’m even more impressed with D. Fong. When i go to or watch council sessions I look at what is said and more importantly what is not said. I have admired D. Fong from Day 1 often respecting the fact that he doesn’t "talk just to talk" and would rather be quiet. It shows me he’s not interested in gathering the attention of the media but places his focus on his public service. Tyndale stood before the council in previous years giving threats during the budget, "If we get less, we will do less" When their were community members getting nothing but laboring to address the violence. Shameful.

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

YouWantWhat-- "Give me a break!" Heck no, please don't ask for a break lol, you are needed! lol You are on a roll! I appreciate all the information you shared. Thank you. You're good! And unfreakin believable - Yes considering all that you wrote, SPOA actually had the nerve to walk away from negotiating. As Klenox stated, "This ploy is ridiculous" and I should add finally we’re seeing some transparency since many of us are seeing right through it!

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

Again, YouWantWhat, thank you for the information you shared!

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

YouWantWhat-- I want to know the answers to the questions you raised. Where is the money coming from?... Heck, I've been trying to understand what exactly the special assistants - third floor bull pen- and the mayors community liaison are suppose to do for the taxpayers/city residents. Heck, as a member of the community I thought I could meet with the "community liaison" but I quickly discovered -after he never returned my call -his position is not community outreach. So is he suppose to just do damage control for the media, send favorable and one sided media releases for Johnson and comment on media sites for damage control? If so, who is paying his salary? If he is employed for Mayor Johnson’s personal ego driven missions then Johnson should pay his salary and his job should be titled media liaison for Kevin Johnson and not as a community liaison for the city.

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Conversation about: Charter reform goes to November ballot – but not as 'strong mayor'

Youwantwhat- thank you for your comment it is good to read / learn the entire quote. I did not see it coming, your comment is appreciated

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Conversation about: Charter reform goes to November ballot – but not as 'strong mayor'

If we want to see personal vendettas we should watch how Johnson/ SPOA attempts to unseat those who opposed him on the strong mayor charter change. For Johnson it is personal and not business. The opposing council is fighting-- and I applaud them-- through much undeserved criticism to keep it business

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

I disagree but I respect your opinion. In my opinion SPOA and Johnson are in the mud playing together- the opposing council is trying to hose them down. It never cease to amaze me how some people would rather look at 5 council members has having no interity than to look at the one mayor ( johnson) who lacked integrity prior to even entering office and has kept that momentum up. Heck D Fong- who has integrity- should of been Vice President or President of SPOA--one of our problems would be solved and without changing the charter. We don't need to change the charter we need to bring back integrity

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Conversation about: Charter reform goes to November ballot – but not as 'strong mayor'

I respect your opinion but I disagree. My councilmember and from what I saw the other council members have listened to the voices of the majority of their district who want to vote after fully understanding the efforts/ consequences of the charter change. I don't think my council member refuse to acknowledge or have confidence in the strength of its citizens… I know many who were mislead by those initially ignorantly gathering signatures to put this measure on the ballot -- I don't think this is personal towards the mayor I think it's business. The same way some can say the council refuse to acknowledge or have confidence in the strength of its citizens some can argue some citizens don't have knowledge or confidence in the strength of the council opposing it. I believe they can oppose it due to lack of merit, wanting the public more informed and not due to personal vendettas. It's easy to say they dislike or have vengeance towards the mayor and Mayor Johnson can know without a doubt that is not true and he will sit in silence and not inform people that personal vendettas is not the reason for them opposing it. Just like Johnson sat in silence when a Black man stated the council was opposing it because Mayor Johnson was black. Mayor Johnson knew that was not true yet he did not raise his voice to say race was not the issue. I, personally don't dislike the mayor, I dislike his deceit. I don't have vengeance towards him I feel sorry for him one day he will have to pay the piper (and not the pied piper of city hall - SPOA) Yes it is unacceptable and an embarrassment that Sac is ranked 5th of the 10 most miserable U.S. cities I'd like to know how changing the charter will change that. And Johnson has aided in many of us being miserable. But then again, he said he’d put us on the map and for many of us our levy (hearts) are broken and we are drowning in a city of neglect as Johnson searches for money to feed his leprechaun SPOA for endorsement of this charter change. While the new brooms are sweeping hopefully they won't sweep under the rug the voices of many of us and hopefully we won‘t have to sit and look at a council, manager… appearing to be stepford wives married to Johnson

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Conversation about: Charter reform goes to November ballot – but not as 'strong mayor'

I was surprised he voted against it too but our professional basketball player mayor surely has another game plan. It appears he will try and stack the council in his favor using SPOA to endorse his candidates of choice (as he did with Ashby) and bring it back. As far as I am concerned our mayor is actually transparrent-- some of us can see right through him and his ego driven ways

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

So much for a mayor wanting to be held accountable! Someone please tell me WHY our mayor did not comment to Mr Tynsdale telling him to stop, and put the immediate needs of the city -public safety- before this not-so immediate concern that will be put on the ballot in June?? Why would our mayor show little concern towards the budget??? ( that he wants to have control over with the charter change)

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

klenox, i absolutely agree! And thank you for the thought-provoking comment. Kudos! I sure as heck would like to hear Tynsdale reply (under his name or whatever name he uses now to post on the site) I agree the ploy is ridiculous and heck absolutely unbelievable that he and Johnson would underestimate and insult our intelligence with this mess

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

two wrongs won't make it right and it is what it is Marcos Breton's opinion. I respect his opinion and we all have an opinion

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

What the heck? Tell me what is fair and balance in journalism?? I sure as heck can't tell by the way SPOA has been protected over the years. What is fair and balance in journalism when a community dies and many more sentenced to be the walking dead and many journalist ignored their plight, cries, screams, blood to write articles to provide increased budgets and grants for SPOA. Oh please, don't tell me you are only concerned with journalist integrity if it pertains to bringing to light what has been done in the dark-- SPOA buying elected officials through endorsements

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Conversation about: Charter reform goes to November ballot – but not as 'strong mayor'

I do agree with you. It's like we're walking on a treadmill since in Feb 2009 the city council created a charter review committee. And i hold Johnson responsible for this treadmill we're on since he continuously fails to focus on the budget deficit (and he wants to control the budget!) crime...and other issues he'll put in the backseat to drive his ego driven power driven charter change. But the heck with accountability when many will blame the council instead of placing blame where it needs to be-- on a self absorbed ego driven mayor. who will never get around to addressing the pain many of us are experiencing in this city because it does not affect him directly I agree, The November election results should either kill the initiative or create the means for thouroughly vetted charter reform. But our mayor doesn't strive to be a public servant but strives to control the city--our mayor is like freddie krueger, michael myers, norman bates, jason vorhees, jigsaw, chucky, leprechaun, pennywise the clown...and will attempt again to bring the issue back from the dead

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Conversation about: Charter reform goes to November ballot – but not as 'strong mayor'

it will be a moot point when Johnson and his team are gone

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Conversation about: Police union halts labor talks with City Hall

Thank you for sharing the information and in my opinion the police union should of kept the money and put it towards their budget. If they stop using their money to attempt to buy elected officials they wouldn't need to continuously drain the budget asking our elected officials to continuously take from the needy (programs to uplift the community where crime is rampant due to lack of resources, employment....) to give to the greedy (union obsessed with power, control and money)

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