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Friday, February 10, 2012
The "Journey" was on at Raley Field
by Ed Fogle, published on May 24, 2009 at 12:35 AM
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"Journey" headlined this packed house fundraising event at Raley Field Saturday night, all for the kids. The event was a fundraiser called "Walk 'N Rock For Kids". Guests enjoyed a gourmet meal on the ball field, an auction and an incredible concert.
Hosted by Art Savage, of Raley Field, the event began with an early VIP access and dinner. Tables were set for the VIP's at the front of the stage and a full gourmet dinner was served.
The dinner was prepared by several of the areas celebrity chefs. Coordinating the gourmet dinner was Peg Poswall. The VIP Reception was prepared by Ryan Curray, Centerplate and Julian Vasquez, Delta King's Pilothouse Restaurant. The first course was prepared by Wendi Mentink, Bidwell Street Bistro and Michael Tuohy, Grange Restaurant. Main course was prepared by Dani Luzzatti, Bella Lu Catering and Matt Woolston, The Supper Club and Matteo's. The dessert course was prepared by Karen Holmes, Karen's Bakery Café & Catering and Kurt Spataro, Paragary Restaurant Group.
After the gourmet dinner, a spirited benefit auction ensued. The proceeds benefited the Hope Productions Foundation. Their non-profit partners are: Boys & Girls Clubs, CASA, Keaton Raphael Memorial, OKIZU, People Reaching Out, River Cats Foundation and WIND.
The opening act was a young band known as "the Lost Boys". They delivered a great opening performance with a well engaged crowed. When they left the stage they were headed to Konockti Harbor in Lake County for their next gig.
The stadium erupted as Journey took the stage. They began playing at 8:35 p.m. and went till approximately 10:30 p.m. The audience was regaled with a great mix of both the old and new hits.
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Steve Perry WAS Journey...the rest were just interchangeable band members.
Image is everything...substance in America no longer means anything.
Good day.
Steve
Chandler, AZ
Even though I was just standing at the very top where the foodstands are located, I saw that everyone on Raley Field is having a blast!
Journey is making a come back these days and that is BECAUSE of their lead singer Arnel Pineda- Filipino or not!! The only thing lacking substasnce here is your narrow mind!
Who are you dude!
How can someone who copies an original artist be more "original" that the artist...that is simply absurd.
There are many good tribute bands out there...I guess then that all tribute bands should be paid $100K per night to play concerts in stadiums. But because some of the money (who knows how much actually went to charity vs-profits pulled out) it is somehow OK to scam the public?
The guy fronting the new Journey is very talented..but they are still a cover band under the same name. It is false advertising...When they announced this I assumed it was the Steve Perry Journey. They obviously hid this fact to mislead people into buying tickets.
As the Court found in a lawsuit against a couple of original members of The Doors for using the name "The Doors"... "The court implicitly holds...that a band that includes two of the three surviving original members is not The Doors.."
If they had honestly advertised this "Journey" concert telling ticket buyers that there was only two original band members and a new singer...they would have been lucky to fill the Press Club.
You are either tooo old, a perryloon, or tooo ignorant to even know that Perry the portuguese gayish voice is himself NOT an original Band member of JRNY---sooo based on your idiotic and absurd logic--Journey under Perry is also tribute band (although pop/gayish rather than ROCK). Robert Fleischman is Journey's original singer and NOT your Perry!
JRNY is now a global and multi-generational ROCK-hard Band...truly an outstanding feat! This latest chapter of the Band played in over 700,000 fans all over the world last year and has a platinum Revelation Album, and late this year will be featured in a documentary to be shown in different prestigious film festivals...the eternal ROCK Band is having a major blast!!!
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Peter, Journey did not become popular or nor did they sell many albums until Steve Perry took over Journey in 1977. Journey is known world wide ONLY because of Steve Perry's vocals.
And I understand that they are playing to large crowds..in fact there have been many complaints in Europe that the advertising has been intentionally misleading and people paid large sums of money to see the Journey they expected to see...with Steve Perry. One should not have to do in depth research on a band before buying tickets to see their concerts to see if the REAL band is playing.
There is simply no reason to mislead the public. Would anyone see the Cure without Robert Smith? NO, would anyone see the Smiths without Morrissey singing. NO, Would anyone pay $80- to 150 bucks to see Fleetwood Mac without Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham and Mick Fleetwood? NO! How about $200+ to see the Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger?
Sorry to highlight your lack of knowledge about Journey--but in truth, Journey never had any respect from music critics purely because of Perry's effeminate/falsetto vocals--described as a "baby seal crying for help" or in England, Perry's girlish/feminine voice was described as a 'duck'! That is the reason why Perry never ever read any of his concert reviews and why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as well as Rolling Stone perennially snubs Journey in the 80s.
Now as far as popularity among the so-called masses, well, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Jonas Brothers are all selling multi-platinum albums, yet this fact alone does not make their singing voices truly remarkable or even exceptional--same with Perry's girlish/ pop voice! In fact, Perry tried to do a concert singing Journey songs without the other Band-members...and what did it get him to? Absolutely nowhere--he even had to cancel the rest of his tour! Pathetically, the only identity he has to the world is that if he is referred to as Journey's ex-lead singer,...but if you only mention his name...you will get a blank stare from almost everyone!
Now talking about complaints from European fans last year...do you have a website link, so I can read it for myself---otherwise your statements are just malicious lies and pure deception...as a matter of fact, Journey is scheduled to go back to these-so-called European places they toured last year with Arnel Pineda, because of the immense requests among the concert-goers from last year--you can go to Journey's official website to see their scheduled European concert tours for 2009!
Now, only a person who lives in the mountains without any Internet or a TV set would be ignorant about Arnel Pineda's joining Journey as their official lead singer last year, since it is all over youtube, the Internet, CNN, New York Times, GQ, Ellen Degeneres, etc....so your statement about misleading advertisement sounds extremely shallow!
PS
As the saying goes, singers come and go, but the MUSIC itself...in this case Journey's timeless music never fades!!! Much like the James Bond character played by the Scottish actor Sean Connery, the English actor Roger Moore, Irish actor Pierce Brosnan and now the first blond Bond actor Daniel Craig...one character, different actors...ALL extremely SUCCESSFUL!
Oh and btw...if Perry sucked so much, why did they sell so many albums...and most importantly, why does Pineda mimic Steve Parry's "gayish/pop voice" or "baby seal crying for help" or "girlish/feminine" vocals?
And finally, can you explain to me how someone who is gay sounds? I find this offensive.
Where are you getting your facts from? Journey didn't just become an International sensation. They sold more albums in Asia from 1978 to 1984 than they have from that time forward through today, including Revelation.
Only 760,000 copies of Revelation have been sold. Compared to over 50 million albums with the voice of the man you say has the gayish falsetto who was also their singer when the band was headlining shows at the Rosebowl in front of 100,000 fans
You also totally skip over the Steve Augeri and JSS contributon to the band despite the 2006 tour ranking higher than the 2009 tour according to Billboard and many of those shows in 2006 where in Europe by the way. Least you forget, Steve Augeri had an A/C hit just like Arnel did with the band. However when was the the last time the band had a real Top 40 hit? Looks like the last time that happened their singer was Steve Perry and they had over a dozen top 40 hits to boot.
The Perry led band also had three top 20 hits in Europe (DSB, Who's crying now and Faithfully) How many Top 20 hits in Europe under Arnel? Zero.
And who got a nice chunk of writing royalties from Revelation? It sure wasn't Arnel but yet again the man with the girly voice as you see it.
Arnel is a great singer but to try to elevate his status by disminishng the role of Perry will get you no where.
To say no one knows who Perry is is another statement without fact. Perry has multiplatinum and gold solo records and 4 Top 20 hits by himself.
The first name DJ's and media types mention when talking about Journey is Steve Perry.
Arnel's story is a wonderful tale that can provide inspiration but fans ike you provide him quite a disservice.
I'm not trying to downplay Arnel's contribution this last year but even he would say that he is paying homage to the legacy of Journey by having this opportunity to step into HIS Idol's shoes.
I've actually seen Journey with Perry, SA, JSS and AP. I've also bought all their albums and supported every member but it doesn't change my perception of which members Journey's most famous line up consisted of.
One last thing, by using terms such as girlish, gayish, etc. to describe Perry, you have made yourself appear as bad as the racist, homophobic haters who called Arnel a dog eater. This limits your credibility dramitically.
I am not downplaying Perry's contribution to Journey...the "seal crying for help as well as the reference to a duck " are not my words BUT the music critics and concert reviewers! Yes, it is my opinion that his voice sounded like a girl/female wailing...and as for falsetto, Perry himself admitted to singing falsetto to reach high notes--which Pineda never ever uses (that explains why Pineda's voice sounds very manly, rockish and powerful in his vocal interpretation of Journey's classic songs).
Now as for sold records...well it took Journey lots of years to sell the number of records that they purportedly sold...so give more time with Pineda and see what legacy he will leave for Journey!
Lest anyone forget, the upsurge of their record sales in the 80s came when Jonathan Cain started to write songs for Journey--Open Arms, Faithfully, Don't Stop Believin, etc., are written by him with some help from Schon and Perry! Again, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Kanye West sell more records than even Journey...but it does NOT prove that they have exceptional vocal talents, it just shows/reveals the current or prevailing musical taste of the so-called masses who buy those records at any given time (same situation can be said of the Perry-fronted Journey in the 80s, where falsetto singing is at its most popular led by the Bee Gees and Rod Stewart). Now as for writing credits for Pineda, Schon wrote on his blog at Journey's official website that Pineda will start writing songs with Schon and Cain for their mostly ROCK songs in their forthcoming 2009 album.
Regarding international popularity...Journey under Perry never toured Europe, but now with their highly successful concert tours last year, (and yes European concert-goers DID know Pineda is the lead singer of Journey last year) and their repeat performances this year, ensures that Journey will be extremely popular in that continent. As far as Asia is concerned, Perry only toured Japan, but under Pineda, Journey held concerts in China, Philippines and Japan...all very successful! Not to mention that Journey was invited for the very first time to perform at SuperBowl, and that they have a film documentary that will be shown in prestigious film festivals this year! Music critics and concert reviewers all sing praises to Pineda's vocal talent in the Revelation CD, as well as his performances in concerts that they even titled their concert reviews as Perry who??? Journey Revelation Tour is in the TOP 20 of the HIGHEST Grossing Tours of 2008--earned more than 45 million dollars. All in all an extremely impressive and phenomenal start for Journey with Pineda as the lead singer.
Here's the stats for Revelation CD sales in Europe: go to this link at Blabbermouth, and YES they are in the Top 100 charts in several European countries last year.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/BlabberMouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=99264
Regarding Augeri and Soto...they are not the topic or issue at hand but the gross exaggeration of Perry's contribution to the band...my posts are trying to disprove the highly illogical/entirely false premise that Perry is Journey, I am contesting that Perry is NOT and never will be Journey alone...but that Journey is a synergy of talented individuals creating beautiful, inspiring and uplifting MUSIC, and the MUSIC never fades.
It was Steve Perry who did not want to move on. It was Steve Perry who did not want to answer the calls of Neal Schon and had to go through lawyers just to talk to him.
If Steve Perry is not with Journey...BLAME HIM.
Maybe Jim just GOT an internet that's why he did not know that Arnel's with the band for more than a year now and his story was feature at CNN, New York Times, GQ as mentioned. Also, before Arnel, Journey was fronted by Jeff Soto when they held concerts in Europe. So your contention about false advertising does not hold water.
Also, may I reiterate, Steve Perry was not an original member of Journey. And your idol is a QUITTER.
Sweden Rock Festival: Sunday 17 May 11:52
3-day tickets almost sold out
Now its time to buy your tickets to this years best festival if you dont wanna miss it. We have now less than 2000 tickets left.
1-day tickets to june 3, june 4 and june 6 are sold out as well as the 4-day tickets. We still have a few 1-day tickets left for june 5.
Journey will perform on June 6 (sold out) and here is what is says on their advertisement:
"The arguably most legendary AOR-band of them all got an overwhelming response in 2006, when they returned to Sweden for the first time in almost two decades - at SRF, if you didn't know. Since then a lot has happened with the band: they have changed singers twice, and released their 13th studio album "Revelation" in 2008. The album got a phenomenal reception, and the same goes for new singer Arnel Pineda from the Philippines, whose similarity to classic Journey vocalist Steve Perry has already made him a new audience favorite. So it is a decidedly revitalized Journey that returns to SRF after three years - whether you were there the last time or not, you have equally good reason not to miss them this time around."
The new singer IMITATES Steve Perry...it's that simple.
Looks like you are running out of inane excuses for your fallen idol! As a perryloon, you are one of the weakest I have encountered in defending him...LOL!!! Anyhow, using your twisted logic about imitating...then Perry himself is an imitator since he admitted in his interviews that he was influenced heavily by Sam Cooke's singing style! It is not as if Perry invented falsetto singing, I personally believe that Barry Gibb of the Bee Gees as well as Rod Stewart sound much better singing falsetto than Perry does!
So NO, Perry is NOT an original with his vocal style, NOR is he the original singer of Journey ( which according to your insane logic, also qualifies your ex-JRNY singer Steve Perry as a TRIBUTE singer to Journey)...tsk, tsk, tsk...LOL!!!!
PS
Do you even know what the meaning of a tribute band is? Reading your illogical posts and unsubstantiated statements about Journey, I bet NOT..LOL!
Anyhow, to enlighten your sparse knowledge about music, a tribute band is a band that exclusively sings songs composed or written solely by ANOTHER Band--a concrete example of a tribute Journey Band is Frontiers...and yes the tickets are a lot less priced than watching Journey itself (since Journey consisting of Neal Schon, Ross Valory and Jon Cain) are the original composers/writers/performers of their very OWN songs!
BTW, I am neither a Philippino nor in any way, shape or form do I get any money from my favorite Band... but unlike you I AM a true Journey Band fan and not a desperate and irrational perryloon...LOL!
Well DUH!!! Since the bulk of the songs performed live are the songs which catapulted Journey to the level they reached, doesn’t it seem somewhat fitting that the singer employed to front the band be able to sound as close to the original as possible? And while Mr. Pineda has the innate ability to closely match Perry, he is aptly capable of convincingly imitating just about any singer he has attempted to. Have a peek at the now famous You Tube vids of him with his former band, The Zoo; a cover band from Manila. It's scary how much of a chameleon he is able to emulate.
Mr. Knapp, you sir should quit while you are... well, I was going to say ahead but....
Your insensitive, offensive and inappropriate remarks have served to make it impossible for you to retain any sense of credibility in this discussion. Many of your statements are inaccurate and unsubstantiated. Your remarks regarding Steve's voice being "gayish" and "girlish" are not relevant, but after following this thread, I've sorta come to expect those kinds of remarks from an uneducated, insensitive, idiot such as yourself. However, you have made racial slurs toward the people of the Philippine Islands on more than one occasion in this thread and that sir is unacceptable. I am not of Pinoy descent so there's ne need to ask. But since no one else has called you on your racist remarks, I am doing so now. You sir are a bigoted piece of trash. There is nothing you can possibly do at this point to gain the respect of any clear-minded person who has and continues to follow this thread. How in God's name is the nationality of Journey's lead singer even remotely relevant to the topic? It is only to those who have a problem with it. Period. The world is a better place for Journey having hired Arnel Pineda. Unfortunately, there are stains that will take time to fade out and those of us who seek to build bridges and to reduce hate will have to wait for the stain on humanity that is you to fade into oblivion.
And somehow, I have this sneaking suspicion you will attempt to justify and defend your position here in the feeble hopes of getting the last word. Have an ounce of dignity man and just walk away.
Good day to you sir!
Steve
PS: To Mr. Samek,
Please do not misinterpret my statements here as slams or attacks against Mr. Knapp at the personal level. The points I made herein were directed to the true instigator, bigot and trouble maker Mr. Knapp has shown himself to be. I believe that the statements I have made here and the lexicon I employed is relevant and my statements while containing labels, were appropriately placed and not thrown at him in anger or used as fodder to cement the points being made. For these reasons, I ask that you take this into consideration before deleting my posts and banning me.
Thank you.
Steve
Mr. Knapp, you call Journey a tribute band? Not hardly! Neal Schon, Ross Valory and Jonathan Cain are all still with the band. All of those members are from the 80's heyday. The Journey franchise is still intact. So what if a lead singer turned his back on the band? He got replaced, just like any business that wanted to go forward would do. You give Steve Perry way too much ownership in Journey. Last time I checked the Catalogue is still owned by the Journey collective, not Steve Perry. Mr. Knapp, if you can pull yourself together and break out of your deluded thinking, maybe I'll see you at a Journey concert sometime.
And, finally, let me ask you this; Were you pissed because you actually did go to the Sacramento cancert and did not know that Steve Perry had been replaced? tsk tsk tsk. If so, your own fault for not following the news....over the years. Anyway, this is really your loss, not ours. We are fans and we are many. We will be just fine and so will Journey.
As for false advertisement, Steve Perry has not been with Journey since 1996. If you or anyone had no idea of this fact, especially with all the media coverage just since Pineda joined alone, it is your own fault. Journey had a wonderful singer named Steve Augerie from 1998 to approx.2007. His tenure in the band Journey was longer than Steve Perry's.
I don't mean to diss Mr. Perry here. The man was/is an incredible talent. But the bottom line is that he chooses to stay out of the music business, out of the band Journey, and out of the public eye. His choice, so to berate the rest of the band from doing what they enjoy and earning a living playing and performing the songs they wrote/co-wrote is just petty. And to do this on a board discussing a charity concert is even lower.
They were one in a band. If anyone deserves to be known as Journey it is Neal Schon, the founder.
Long live the JOURNEY!!!!