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Gun rights advocates have been on the defensive after the mass shooting in Newtown, Conn. last week, but that didn't stop one group in Sacramento from demonstrating their opposition to gun control in a way that was sure to get attention.
Sacramento police questioned and then released a group of men who walked down one of the city's busiest streets with shotguns over their shoulders Sunday evening.
Two of the men in the group were carrying shotguns when police stopped them at 10th and J streets around 9:20 p.m., according to officer Michelle Gigante. They were found to be in compliance with current open carry laws as the guns were not loaded, Gigante said.
One of the suspects told officers that they wanted to carry the guns in public before it becomes illegal, Gigante said.
The state legislature passed a law in August that bans the carrying of long guns or rifles and shotguns outside of motor vehicles. That law will go into effect on Jan. 1.
Supporters of the law cited the danger posed by mass shootings, including the one in Aurora, Colo., while opponents said it targeted law abiding citizens and was "fear mongering."
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Speaking of Conneticut, why don't these paragons of hypermasculinity try this stupid stunt in Newton and see what kind of reaction they'd get.
So does this mean that I can't use a steak knife in public and am limited to sporks?
Who has an automatic in this discussion? ie Automatic = machine gun. As far as I know, all of these horrible attacks have been done with semi-automatics (1 bullet per trigger pull)... which is the same capability of the vast majority of handguns and long guns in America for the last 80 years.
The "assault weapon" that the attacker in Conneticut used has 2 key characteristics. 1) It looks real scary, like a military machine gun 2) it has an easily removable ammo clip.
My old Remington .270 deer rifle has a 3 slot magazine that is non-removable (3 shots are fine for deer hunting). The Newton attacker had a Bushmaster .22 with a removable clip and a large quantity of 20 slot magazines that could be replaced in seconds. He also had a Glock handgun in his pocket, which most likely also had a quickly replaceable clip. Even if "assault weapons" were banned, assume that these mentally ill monsters could do similar damage with handguns.
So the ongoing talk about "banning assault weapons" is really a discussion about allowing rifles to have removable ammo clips and/or restricting the capacity of said ammo clips. I think that is a great discussion to have .
But as long as the media perpetrates and the public believes that these assault weapons are automatic military type machine guns, I am afraid that it may not be a real fruitful discussion.
Just like the Occupy Sacramento park sit-ins were an exercise of free speech right, we may find this exercise too confrontational for our taste.
The small downside of democracy is an occasional stinky hippy camping in our parks, gun-rights activist marching with unloaded shotguns, flag-burning, and so forth.
I just got back last week from one of my regular biz trips to China. Nice to be back to a place where individuals can make bold public defenses of their rights.
"Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." ~Kozinski, 9th Circuit Court
It seems most Americans think of the constitution as religious scripture. Which explains why so many never actually read it or know what it says.
This article helps clarify some of the confusion regarding all of this -
So You Think You Know the Second Amendment?
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2012/12/jeffrey-toobin-second-amendment.html
Still, thanks for the article, it was a good read.
In the case of the theater shooting that happened a little while ago, there was a gun range owner that wanted to report the shooter, but there was no facility for reporting someone with mental health issues who others felt might be a danger. Similarly, the VA Tech killer and the guy who shot the Congress woman also had people who noticed warning signs, but had nobody to report them to. All of these killings could have been mitigated or prevented with a quality mental health care system.
So, which do you think is the cheaper option- gun control, or quality public mental health? If you check with most health insurance, you will find that guns are much cheaper than intervention care or long term psychiatric treatment. People hold up the Scandinavian countries and Canada as examples of places with less gun violence, but what many don't realize is that it is just as easy to get a hold of a high capacity weapon there, too (consider the youth massacre in Norway by Brevik). The one thing that many gun control advocates are missing is that those exemplary countries have something else in common that the US does not have and will not pay for- quality public mental health care.