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Gun store coming to Midtown

by Brandon Darnell, published on June 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM

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The next tenant for the old Cornerstone space at 2330 J St. could be a gun store, as a federal firearms dealer license was issued for that address Wednesday.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokeswoman Helen Dunkel said Thursday that the license was issued to Manuel Hernandez and Jesus Figueroa, and the business listed on the license is M&J Gun Trade.

“It’s an 01-type license, so that’s handguns, long guns, and probably accessories and ammunition,” Dunkel said.

Calls to the license holders were not returned Thursday afternoon.

According to Principal Planner Greg Bitter of the city Community Development Department, there is no public hearing process before the store can open.

“Selling firearms is considered retail use and is allowed in the general commercial zone,” Bitter said. “There is no specific land use or entitlement needed. All they would need is building permits for any internal tenant improvements.”

He added that he currently has no specific information on the intended use of the space.

The space previously housed popular Midtown breakfast spot Cornerstone, which moved in 2010.

M&J Gun Trade won’t be far from the site of a previous gun shop, Old Sacramento Armory, which ran for decades a block away at 2215 J St.

Old Sacramento Armory closed in the mid-2000s and was replaced by Capital Stage last year.

Brandon Darnell is a staff reporter for The Sacramento Press. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.

 

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June 14, 2012 | 5:14 PM
Do we not remember the violence that took place in Seattle a few weeks ago?
Or when members of the 2nd Sat art walk were caught in the cross fire of bullets.

One can only hope this store fails.
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June 14, 2012 | 9:41 PM
There was no gun store in midtown last year, yet the the 2nd Sat shooting somehow still happened. So maybe just consider that there may be a few other factors in gang violence beyond geographical proximity of arms dealers.
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July 5, 2012 | 3:01 PM
You sound like a typical anti-gun person. So I will ask you the same thing I asked my Senator. Tell me one gun law that has stopper, or been abided by by criminals. I am willing to bet that the gun that fired shots at the 2nd saturday situation was not a legal gun. But I am sure you would much sooner see a liquor store there, catering to the lower class types.
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July 5, 2012 | 4:37 PM
Criminals by definition break laws.
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June 14, 2012 | 6:24 PM
I could have sworn there was a moratorium on shops that sold ammo in Sacramento downtown. I remember during Joe Serna's term there was an allowance for Broadway bait to sell his store one more operator, but then that was it
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June 14, 2012 | 7:08 PM
Great--one less reason to have to leave the grid!
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June 15, 2012 | 1:58 PM
William, you have posted over 2,000 comments on various issues covered by Sacramento Press. Perhaps you'd consider spending more time enjoying your neighbors and your neighborhood rather then just commenting on it.
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June 15, 2012 | 2:22 PM
Some people can do both. He probably far more engaged with his neighborhood than you are.
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June 15, 2012 | 2:48 PM
I agree JWS. Might be hard to enjoy your neighbors when they are as sarcastic as JackM.
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June 18, 2012 | 11:49 AM
Seriously? I know Mr. Burg pretty well and he is one of the most connected and active neighbors in the grid. I'm really happy he posts both comments and full articles here.

The whole point of this site is to add another layer of depth to conversations we neighbors do have in real life and allow more people to discuss and debate important issues like this. Many of us are committed to this community in real life and on this digital platforms.
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June 14, 2012 | 7:32 PM
If these guys had a clue they would open up in the Galleria where their customers live instead of midtown... or perhaps the sheriff has space for rent next to the room where he hands out concealed weapons permits...
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June 14, 2012 | 8:07 PM
We had the Old Sac Armory in Midtown on J near 22nd for decades so it's not really a big deal - I'm kind of happy we'll have a gun store again. Plenty of central city residents own weapons and it might be nice to have a place in walking distance to get parts/ repairs or accessories for those weapons.
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June 15, 2012 | 10:01 PM
Wow outright name calling. Really? I thought Sac Press doesn't allow that?
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June 17, 2012 | 9:35 AM
Sorry if the truth hurts.
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June 17, 2012 | 10:11 AM
We don't allow that and the comment has been removed. Thank you for bringing it to our attention and hopefully everyone can continue to engage in a civil debate.
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June 14, 2012 | 8:58 PM
Or protection during a bath salt outbreak. Although Rio Linda to Downtown is a far naked jog for anyone.
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edited on  June 14, 2012 | 9:58 PM
A gun store has a better shot at survival than a restaurant. Welcome to Midtown, gun guys!
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edited on  June 15, 2012 | 1:17 AM
I live around the corner, hell no am I going to walk by a store full of guns every morning on my way to work. Just what my local area needs??? I just assumed some cheesy "art gallery" would move in, cleary I dont know my neighborhood.
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June 15, 2012 | 1:39 AM
What is this, South Sac??
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June 15, 2012 | 10:37 PM
Maybe they will put a Midtown-style spin on this store to make it a destination! Instead of the same old guns you'd buy at the Wal-Mart sports counter in the suburbs, they could stock the cool new indie guns, designer gunleather, artisanal handloaded ammunition, hip Army surplus gear, and of course the most stylish European protective eyewear. And they're a natural spot for a really interesting art show on Second Saturdays!
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edited on  June 16, 2012 | 8:26 AM
What are you smoking? Hum. Fairy Skyscrapers vs Fairy Gun Shops.
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June 16, 2012 | 11:15 AM
Well, I'm kind of being snarky, in case it wasn't obvious, although independent gun shops tend to be different than, say, the gun counter at Wal-Mart ot Big 5. More focus on the collector/specialty market, often gunsmithing services, often more knowlegeable staff than a big chain store, and a meeting point for local enthusiasts. I know there is a local chapter of the Pink Pistols (gay/lesbian shooting clubs, they exist across the country) that might provide an ideal "target market" (if you'll excuse the pun) for this store.
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June 18, 2012 | 8:12 PM
Having grown up in South Sac I can tell you with 100% assurance that no, it is not.
In the hood and barrio, guns aren't purchased at heavily regulated gun stores, but rather stolen or purchased by criminals.
You have more to fear taking the 51 into Oak Park than you do from a duck hunter buying ammunition.
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June 20, 2012 | 6:27 PM
As a historian and frequent commenter, I would have expected Bill Burg to have done some research before commenting on an issue like the proposed gun store moving into Midtown.

Walmart hasn't sold firearms in California since they settled a multimillion dollar lawsuit in 2003. While I personally have no issue with a gun shop in Midtown, I think that there would be many locations where it would be a better fit in then in Midtown.
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June 15, 2012 | 8:30 AM
Awsome. Now I can mount my dads BAR on my basket bike and a reload is just a "stones throw" away.

Its all about freedom- Jimi Hendrix

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June 15, 2012 | 9:23 AM
Hippies never die they just become Libertarins.
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June 15, 2012 | 10:01 PM
John: Kind of like this?

http://www.25thlondon.com/soldiers-on-cycles.htm

I think it's a Martini-Henry rather than a BAR, but the idea is the same.
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June 15, 2012 | 8:33 AM
Just noticed a whopping 11 thumbs down.
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June 15, 2012 | 8:37 AM
It is disheartening that the City of Sacramento's land use law / zoning code doesn't trigger a public review of this type of use in a commercial corridor. Yes, folks needs a place to buy ammo and guns, however, I don't believe that an area of town vying to be a cultural/entertainment center is the appropriate location for this type of establishment. What a bummer, this town has so much potential but is continuously plagued by bad planning decisions and zoning codes that don't encourage/regulate good development.
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June 15, 2012 | 10:55 AM
This has to be the most absurd use of such a prime spot! I don't really care that it's a gun shop per se (however the fact that this is fine & pot dispensaries are being shut down is laughable) but this just seems like a really weird location for this kind of business. It's not like a gun shop needs a prime location - it has an existing customer base that will basically go wherever it is.
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June 15, 2012 | 11:24 AM
There is a historical precendence for a gun store in this area going back several decades.

Midtown should embrace the historical context of this new business venture!
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June 19, 2012 | 9:50 AM
An historic gun shop? I like that idea. If they were to sell those riflese they used in the Revolutionary War, for example--you know the ones you had to put the powder in--that would be quite neat. Is that what you're suggesting?
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June 19, 2012 | 3:48 PM
The store should abide by all laws as they satisfy consumer demand for their goods and services.

If the marketplace wants Revolutionary War-era black powder rifles, then I hope this new venture grabs a big piece of that demand.

But since Sacramento's brainwashed voters & ineffective union-pawn city leadership continues to drive further declines in public safety, I suspect this store will be more focused on home defense.
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June 15, 2012 | 11:24 AM
First there was the Fight Bar a few blocks down, now a new gun store, next up will be a new mining settlement and supply company just outside of Sutter's Fort. New development Gold Rush era style!
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June 15, 2012 | 11:41 AM
I think the driving force behind so many negative comments is that so may people associate the misuse of guns with the guns themselves. The second amendment to the bill of rights is pretty much what keeps guns available and allows gun shops in communities. Guns are used for many bad things these days, but the factors behind that are not the guns. I could point out several factors that drive the increased misuse of guns, but more importantly everyone should consider that the only way to stop a gun store from openeing in your community is to amend the constitution and bill of rights. While you might possibly see less shootings by individuals, you could also see an increase in abuses by your government. Those early colonists with guns did not lay their lives on the line and sacrifice them because they were "gun nuts", right wing nuts, or TEA bagging obstructionists. They clearly recognized their desire to control the government, both then and in the future. Eliminate the 2nd amendment, and the gun, and you'll set the stage for something like abuses of the NDAA, or even a future administration creating a treaty with other nations to enforce global or regional laws that do not recognize the rights you have now.
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June 15, 2012 | 12:36 PM
"While you might possibly see less shootings by individuals, you could also see an increase in abuses by your government."

I'd be interested to hear a few examples of government abuse that would be stopped by gun ownership in 2012. I'm not anti-gun but this romantic, historic notion that we need guns to keep the govt in line is a red herring in modern times. Guns are great for self-protection but if the government is going to trample your rights, I don't think they'll be doing it within shooting distance.
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edited on  March 15, 2013 | 7:47 AM
One clear cut case of government abuse stopped by gun rights was among the Korean Americans of Los Angeles during the 1992 riots. Or perhaps that was government neglect.
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June 15, 2012 | 1:17 PM
You should look to countries without 2nd amendment provisions in their governing concepts at present. Look at the Syrians, or how about the Kurds in Iraq. The mexicans in Chiapas, or Cuba under fidel castro. Maybe you have outgrown the abuse of power, but it's still an infection of the mind that lives on.
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edited on  June 15, 2012 | 11:16 PM
Or you can look to Canada, Sweden, France, Australia, UK, Japan, etc.... which don't have our holy 2nd Amendment and yet some how they are much safer than the USA. Guns clealy do not make a society safer. And real men don't need guns to make them feel safe.
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June 15, 2012 | 5:31 PM
Do you know what they call "accidental" shooting deaths of people and family members who are so scared of who and what foxnews tells them to be scared of that they think they need a gun for "protection"? "Thinning the herd"...OK, maybe a bit harsh but seriously, if people are too lazy to drive the 5 or 10 minutes to get to one of the SIXTEEN other gun stores listed in the yellow pages in the Sac area then they are too dumb to shop for a gun at a store in the middle of a residential neighborhood with tenants RIGHT above the store. Guns are FAR more likely to kill their owners and/or family members than they are "intruders"...We do NOT need this garbage in Midtown. Not at that great site. Freaking ridiculous. BTW, the CDD Principal planner is Greg Bitter at 916-808-7816 . Call if you want to complain about this.
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edited on  June 15, 2012 | 10:33 PM
That suggestion about "too lazy to drive 5 or 10 minutes" is an excuse made to justify the shortage of neighborhood-serving retail businesses in the central city like hardware stores, home electronics stores etcetera--or even gun stores. Many of us live in the central city because we really do enjoy the convenience of being able to walk to do our shopping. As mentioned above, there was a gun store in the same neighborhood until a few years ago, so it's not like this is some radical new use that has never been seen in Midtown before. And in some ways it's nice to see a new business open that isn't in the culture/entertainment market sector.

Gun stores are tightly regulated by the government, generally depend on a high degree of shop security, and generally a lot of their regular customers are law enforcement officers. They also tend to be places where people hang out for a while. Like most hobbyists, shooters often like talking about their hobby, which turns a gun shop into a hangout of sorts, a "third space" to some extent like a cafe, barbershop or tattoo studio (another maligned business type.) So they bring something positive and unique to the neighborhood.

And while I'm sure a lot of customers at this store will be neighborhood residents, it will also draw shoppers from outside the central city (and possibly outside the city) to shop in Midtown, because there aren't very many gun stores in the Sacramento region overall--and if they stay open late enough, they will catch some downtown workers on their way home.
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edited on  June 15, 2012 | 11:16 PM
Oh brother. Gun shops -fine. Location -not fine. See the difference? Nope I guess you don't.
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June 16, 2012 | 3:53 PM
No, not really. A little google-fu turned this up, though.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=vancouver,+bc+canada,+gun&ll=49.255986,-123.089976&spn=0.00034,0.000603&sll=49.255975,-123.090091&layer=c&cid=13781878194127251157&cbp=13,258.98,,0,9.86&panoid=CFJJAZ0luY8PM9OJ_Kfhxw&gl=us&hq=vancouver,+bc+canada,+gun&t=h&z=21&cbll=49.255986,-123.089976

A store called "Reliable Gun." In a mixed-use, predominantly residential neighborhood near a lot of cafes, restaurants (pho, French, pizza, sushi, bubble tea!), a short distance from downtown. In Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. (There are plenty of Canadian firearms enthusiasts out there.) Heck, it actually looks like a pretty neat neighborhood, kind of like Midown! I have heard good things about Vancouver, although I don't think I'm cut out for Canadian winters...
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June 16, 2012 | 12:54 PM
For some the issue is about guns violence and there's nothing wrong with being sensitive to that and abhorring it. For others, the issue is about the right to bear arms. And there's nothing wrong with people wanting to protect their constitutional rights (as the courts have interpreted them). And still for others it's about whether or not this is an appropriate location for such a business. Out of all these the latter seems to be the most on-topic and worthy of discussion in the context of the article.

A few people on here seem to only use SacPress comment section to promote their particular ideology --regardless of the topic. I've seem my share of discussion boards grind to a halt when people do that. I'm also guilty of straying off-topic and being too sarcastic --but I will try to do better because I really do appreciate the public service that SacPress provides our community and the ability for people with such diverse viewpoints to share their opinions.
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June 22, 2012 | 11:40 PM
seems to me that mark has framed the question well. violence/right to bear arms/ cancel each other, but is the location appropriate? i don't like guns and i don't like snakes. having guns two blocks from my home bothers me many times more than snakes. crazy, but guns frighten me even more than snakes.
i admire Burg's original comment. 'Great. one more reason not to leave the grid.' but i am frightened by guns. for the record, Sims Hardware sold guns at 28th and J for years afore being replaces by a forgettable building. Sims did not frighten me. i pass that corner several times a week, more often than the old armory. and the armory was set back with roll up door, and not inviting me in. still thinking, tho one of by thoughts is to march in front of the spot with a sign that says NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. still thinking
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June 16, 2012 | 5:43 PM
I feel the shop will be a welcome addition to Midtown. I'm not sure why people are so up in arms (pun intended) over a new business setting up shop in Midtown. The folks who are behind this business identified a need in the community and are stepping up to supply that need. Last time I checked, Weapons and ammunition are taxable goods. Even better! I'm no gun nut, But I do believe in free enterprise and locally owned small businesses. When I am in the market for a weapon, It's comforting to know I will be able to shop in the City I live in instead of the Unincorporated County or across the river in Yolo County.
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June 18, 2012 | 10:20 AM
I think some folks have a fear of guns for some reason.
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June 18, 2012 | 5:26 AM
I guess I'm just ignorant, and I know this is a well used argument, but take away the gun shops and take away guns from "the people" and all you have is a vulnerable community. The bad guys will get their guns. The police can't be their johnny-on-the-spot when the bad guy comes through the door, gags, binds and shoots your family. The bad guys love gun laws... it makes it safer for them when they come through your door. I do think it would be great if a local gun shop also provided gun safety workshops in collaboration with SacPD.
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June 18, 2012 | 10:21 AM
i wonder which people think is worse to have in their neighborhoods, a gun shop or a McDonald's?
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June 18, 2012 | 11:54 AM
Judging by recent debates, it seems McDonald's has the edge on size and organization of opposition groups.
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June 18, 2012 | 1:17 PM
I find it beyond ironic that a story about a McDonald's going in in Oak park made the front page of the Bee while at the same time a gun store has apparently been approved for the former Cornerstone restaurant location at J St. and 24th in Midtown. It is not the gun store per se that I and many of my Midtown neighbors object to(though there ARE 16 other gun stores listed in the Sacramento yellow pages) but that it is a very unfortunate and inappropriate location(being in the middle of a residential neighborhood and only two blocks from two different schools) and that there was NO advance notice or chance for public comment. According to Principal City Planner Greg Bitter In current code there isn't a requirement for a public hearing or discretionary planning permit for a gun store in the city.

A McDonald's drive through restaurant needs a planning permit but a gun shop smack dab in a residential community does not. Like I said, ironic.
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