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Drunk in Public

by Michelle Lazark, published on April 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM

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Posted by dvh123

I am trying to find statistics for drunk in public incidents in my neighborhood. I live at 22nd and I street in midtown and it seems to me and my husband that in the past year or so we have had more and more of these incidents, particularly on the weekends. We are very disturbed by the number of individuals leaving the bars/restaurants in our neighborhood who are at best just loud and drunk and happy or at worst having horrible drunken altercations, sometimes right under our bedroom window. We do call the police, but this situation has gotten out of hand and it is also a very dangerous one in that there are fights and people driving away intoxicated. We need a foot or bicycle patrol. We need someone to watch people leaving these establishments and following them to their cars and stopping them from being loud, fighting and driving away drunk.

What else can I do besides call the police when I am woken at 2 or 3 am by loud fighting drunks?
Thanks!

Dear dvh123,

Thank you for writing. I did some research into two square blocks surrounding the intersection of 22nd St. and I St. Since November 2007, officers made arrests for a wide range of offenses including, but not limited to, public intoxication, DUI, simple assaults (fist fights) and aggravated assaults involving a weapon (a metal bar). Officers also responded to a number of disturbance calls. Often times, the source of the disturbance is gone by the time the officer arrives. An officer’s response time is based on the volume and priority of calls at that particular time.

I encourage you and your neighbors to continue calling the police when your peace is disturbed. We focus our resources on the basis of calls for service, so your calls are important. Unfortunately, we do not have the staffing resources available to follow patrons to their cars when they leave the restaurants, clubs and other establishments. However, I will forward the information you provided to the officers assigned to your area.

Officer Michelle

 

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April 20, 2009 | 8:34 AM
Officer Michelle,
Can the residents start a petition to present to the city counsel or the police department?
I thought that CA laws were passed many years ago that held bar responsible for the condition of how they're patrons left their establishment. If they're drunk and drive then the owners can also be held accountable for the DUI, manslaughter or involuntary murder charges.
If this still stands true, can't they be held accountable for fines that residence can pursue for continually having their peace disturbed? If there are enough complaints can the bar loose their liquor license?
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edited on  April 20, 2009 | 9:33 AM
Angela,
We routinely do buiness checks and have a dedicated unit (Entertainment Team) who deal with the downtown bars. We also work with the Alcohol Beverage Control (ABC), a state agency, that keep the bars in line. If there is an ongoing problem with a bar, the ABC will investigate. If the problem is substantiated, they will pull their liquor license. Sometimes for a period of time....sometimes indefinately. Contact the entertainment team supervisor at our Richards Boulevard office. They can help. The number is 808-4500. Good luck with that....Michelle
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April 20, 2009 | 11:15 PM
The well documented overconcentration of bars in Midtown has gotten out of hand in the past two to three years. There are laws that outline what constitutes overconcentration and much of Midtown exceeds this ratio by 300 to 700 %. There are some enforcement mechanisms in place but the problem is by the time patrons fan out into the neighborhoods to stumble to their cars, it is impossible to trace which establishment they came from hence make the mechanism in place virtually useless. Many of these bars are located very close to residences and because of the overconcentration (too many bars for the local population to support) these businesses must draw from outside the area to survive, creating a clientele that have no concern or stake in the neighborhood. Ask anyone who lives near the 2700 Block of J Street. The situation has totally gotten out of control. Plus it is very expensive to enforce.
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edited on  April 21, 2009 | 3:34 PM
Savemidtown: You've said it all very well. 27th & J is out of control. ABC has been great when trying to work with victims of the noise and property damage. Unfortunately, we have city management that thinks the best way to get revenue and enliven midtown is to concentrate bars and nightclubs here.. At direction of management(?),PD, doesn't even submit its usual set of conditions to ABC when an alcohol license is applied for. It is shortsighted, costly and destructive but try to tell them that and they exclude you from the dialog. They could care less about the residents.

Fortunately, Midtown Business Association has hired (with a small contribution from city council) a group called Hospitality Institute which will be here soon to work with residents and businesses to see what can be done to resolve these increasing alcohol related problems.

Meanwhile, people are invited to attend the Neighborhood Advisory Group held every third Monday of the month at 6:30 at the Hart Center, 27th and J. You can make your voice heard there. Sacpress is now covering those meetings too.
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