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by Melissa Corker, published on December 6, 2011 at 8:49 PM

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The city of Sacramento responded to the recently released California High Speed Rail Authority business plan with a letter of support – and a couple of suggestions for the authority to consider as the project develops.

City Councilman Steve Cohn said Tuesday that the city is in support of the project overall, but Cohn and the council want to emphasize two points: recognition that the high-speed rail project must be phased in, and funding should also upgrade existing connecting infrastructure.

“It can’t all be built at once,” Cohn said at the Law and Legislation Committee meeting at City Hall Tuesday. “The revised business plan does a more realistic job of explaining this phasing process (than the initial plan).”

The new business plan, released Nov. 1 to update the 2009 plan, outlines a “building block” approach to connecting the state’s major northern and southern California population centers with high-speed trains.

By building the project incrementally, the plan states, it allows for completion in stages as additional funding is identified.

Cohn said that, from the city of Sacramento’s standpoint, the 20-year project will need to connect well to local and regional transit services as it unfolds.

Some inter-city connectors will need to be upgraded and expanded – and that will not be cheap, Cohn said.

“So far, only $950 million of the original (Proposition 1A) initiative has been set aside for inter-city connections,” Cohn said. “We think that roughly 10 percent of total spending on high speed rail should go into these inter-city connections.”

With an estimated total cost of nearly $98 billion, that means $10 billion over the life of the project directed at essential infrastructure, Cohn said.

Cohn said that upgrades to inter-city connectors and existing rail lines will go a long way to increasing the overall efficiency of rail travel even before high-speed rail is fully realized in the state.

“If we invest money in the tracks and signal equipment between here and the Bay Area,” Cohn said, “We can reach the Bay Area in less than an hour with the exact trains we already have. Those trains are capable of going over 100 miles per hour. The problem isn’t the train, it’s in the track and signaling equipment.”

Cohn said the infrastructure work needs to be completed alongside the high-speed rail project so that, when everything is connected, it will create a smooth transition.

California voters approved $9 billion of public funding for the proposed high-speed rail project with Proposition 1A in 2008. Additional funding for the project will come from both federal and private dollars, according to the California High Speed Rail Authority.

The rail project is planned to ultimately connect Sacramento to San Diego via 800 miles of track, allowing upwards of 44 million riders annually to travel quickly from place to place.

The initial 130-mile stretch is slated to be built in the Central Valley at a cost of approximately $6 billion – including $3.3 billion in federal funds and $2.7 from state funds.

The estimated total cost of the first phase of the high-speed rail project, which would connect the Los Angeles basin to the San Francisco Bay Area, is $98.1 billion.

According to Lance Simmens, deputy director of communications for the high speed rail authority, construction on the initial segment – the “backbone” of the rail line – should start in late 2012.

The first segment of the rail project will extend from just north of Fresno to North of Bakersfield, and construction is expected to take approximately five years to complete. Work to connect to Sacramento would begin in 2026.

“The backbone (segment of the project) will be available for Amtrak San Joaquin (passenger rail) service,” Simmens said, “but it will not be high-speed rail yet.”

Trains on the initial segment will travel at normal speeds – typically between 80 to 100 miles per hour, Simmens said. True high speed rail is capable of speeds up to 220 miles per hour.

Simmens said that further construction will allow for faster speeds.

“We appreciate that the high speed rail authority business plan acknowledges the need for inter-city upgrades,” Cohn said. “Sacramento shouldn’t have to wait until 2040 to benefit from high-speed rail. We should be benefiting all along the way.”

The letter of support from the city of Sacramento will be sent to the high speed rail authority within the next week.

Read the California High Speed Rail Authority draft business plan HERE.

Explore an interactive map of the proposed high speed rail routes HERE.

Melissa Corker is a staff reporter for The Sacramento Press. Follow her on Twitter @MelissaCorker.

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edited on  December 7, 2011 | 7:51 AM
What. A. Joke. Then, and now. Please stop the waste of money. The "high-speed" (sic, the article already admits as much) rail fetishists are even less sensible than the trolley fetishists:

http://land-of-fruits-and-nuts.blogspot.com/2008/10/lets-derail-plans-for-government-run.html

How many badly needed local transportation projects go begging as it is?

Even if you are a "rail fan", simple actions like double tracking the entire routes of the existing Altamont Commuter Express, Capitol, Pacific Surfliner, Metrolink and San Joaquin trains would speed up that service--at a fraction of the price of a "high speed" (sic, the article already admits as much) choo-choo project. Currently, existing passenger trains often have to pull onto single track sidings to let the freight trains go by, with delays of up to one half hour as a result.
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December 7, 2011 | 9:38 PM
Sounds like you agree with Cohn, who has recommended that HSR include upgrades to existing "regular-speed" rail. And I can't think of any better way to improve passenger rail service than to separate it on its own line, instead of using freight tracks. But if we do that, why should we limit ourselves to speeds that were considered pokey by railroads 100 years ago? High-speed rail is the state of the art in the present day in the rest of the world.

But your dismissal of rail as "choo-choo" trains makes clear that you don't want to see any sort of rail improvement--you're probably just obsessed with vroom-vroom cars and can't bear attention paid to a transit mode other than your favorite toy.
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December 8, 2011 | 3:24 AM
There is rail improvement and misuse of taxpayers funds. Not counting the fact this project is not turning out to be what the voters voted on. People should had been paying attention three years ago when HSR kept putting forth cr** for plans and spending hundreds of millions of dollars. They can not even provide proof to the Senate that they are suppose to start in 2012. They just we're told that. And the people by the way against it I would like you to prove they have airlines backing as they are a grass group funded by themselves. So your lobbying comments well are BS with no proof except speculation. I would also suggest you spend a little more time reading the 30,000 page EIR to look at the fact it is flawed even after 30,000 pages and three years. The business plan is VERY flawed and several points have already been brought forward that the plan does not even meet the bond qualifications. Then MAYBE you need to actually attend a few HSR meeting and ask the hard question (Not fluff ) and see if you can get a direct answer. I am quessing the answer will be no. The bottom line is these people have already spent hundred of millions of dollars with some very flawed plans. And now your willing to hand them billions of taxpayers dollars when they can not even complete a HSR in phase one. I would expect the media to ask some serious questions. Not fluff peices.
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edited on  December 8, 2011 | 10:08 AM
OUR "Vroom Vroom" cars and buses WORK. Other than Freight, YOUR "choo-choo" trains DON'T.

OUR problem is not getting from downtown Sac to downtown LA in less than four hours (which the airports could handle perfectly well). OUR problem is getting from work to home in less than ONE hour.
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December 7, 2011 | 8:13 AM
Wow. As a former reporter myself, I cringe when reading articles like this. Public support for high-speed rail is plummeting, costs are rising ... and Sacramento responds to the business plan "with a letter of support"?

The lack of this reporter's skepticism is stunning. It would be good to keep in mind, when talking to any City Council member -- "What planet does this person live on, and what is the average Intelligence Quotient of the rulers that planet?"

And then ask your questions accordingly. For instance:

* Given the distinct lack of accurate ridership estimates, why does the City Council support the high-speed rail plan?

* Given that the original budget estimates have doubled, does the City Council think the project can be built for the current $100 billion estimate?

* And then, if the Council still supports the rail plan, one could go with , "What planet do you live on?"
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edited on  December 7, 2011 | 11:29 AM
In fairness, author Melissa Corker was merely reporting on the delusions of the Sacramento City Council? Those aren't her fault.
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December 7, 2011 | 12:30 PM
Those sounds like excellent follow-up questions to the initial report of what the Council said.
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December 7, 2011 | 8:47 AM
HSR will send this state further into the red. The reporter failed to mention several events in the last few weeks that will help kill the project.

* A lawsuit filed on behalf of the Kings County Board of Supervisors and two area farmers contends the scaled-down project fails to meet construction and financial requirements approved by California voters in 2008. The suit asks the courts to bar state officials from using state bond funds on the proposed initial section.

* Republicans, who control the U.S. House of Representatives and oppose the rail plan, have scheduled a special Transportation and Infrastructure Committee hearing Dec. 15 solely to hear about the California project.

* California's nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office last week issued a report asserting that as is, the project can't tap into state funds because it doesn't meet requirements imposed by Proposition 1A, the 2008 ballot initiative.

"The suit first claims that the Authority plans to spend billions constructing a NON HSR [high-speed rail] SYSTEM in the central valley — a conventional rail system that is not even electrified, and that the voters of California never intended for their money to be used for conventional NON HSR projects," assserted a news release accompanying the Nov. 14 lawsuit.

Read more here: http://www.voiceofoc.org/state/artic...9bb2963f4.html
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December 7, 2011 | 9:30 AM
At the very most it was a waste of time.
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December 7, 2011 | 12:31 PM
Sounds like the concrete lobby will do whatever they can to ensure that future transportation spending is solely dedicated to highways and airports, even though they will end up costing more than high-speed rail!
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edited on  December 7, 2011 | 7:37 PM
How DARE gas tax money and airport fees actually get spent on their intended purposes!

When even the Euros are finding their trains don't pencil out, I have to laugh at such claims of cost savings. And to ignore the reality that *time* is money and also matters is dishonest.

If you like cho-choos so much, let me give you one word: FREIGHT. Freight doesn't mind when it sits on a siding, so long as the perishable goods are in working refrigerant cars. Freight actually IS more cost effective to ship by rail. Freight has been and will be the salvation of the railroad industry.
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December 7, 2011 | 3:11 PM
You need to spend some actual time looking at the EIR and business plan before commenting. Most of the people not agreeing are taxpayers who woke up to the fact this is a scam job.
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edited on  December 9, 2011 | 12:42 PM
Consider that investments in infrastructure projects like freeways, airports, energy and modern communications has been part of government policy for quite a long time.

Those same investments often both benefit the public while creating opportunities for private industry. That is why they tend to get widespread support.
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December 7, 2011 | 3:09 PM
In the spring of 2008, the Authority issued a Request for Expressions of Interest (RFEI) as an effort to gauge private sector interest in participating in a P3 arrangement for the high-speed train project. Interest was strong, especially among construction firms, system and equipment providers, financial institutions and operators. However, most private firms responding made it clear that they would need both financial and political commitments from state officials that government would share the risks to their participation. The amount of private funding and timing of private sector participation will be a reflection of how risky the private sector perceives this project overall.

Shared risk equals commitment to provide public funding — i.e., taxpayer subsidies — should ridership or revenue come up short. That’s illegal under Proposition 1A. And that is what the business plan for the project contemplated all along — except voters weren’t told about it until days after giving their blessing (and $9.95 billion) to the project.

So while the current scandal over heavy PR costs plays out, the bigger picture must not be forgotten. The bullet train was built on dishonesty from the start, when voters were told they’d never have to give another dime to the project — even as train planners and executives knew taxpayers would have to “share risks” going forward to attract the billions in private investments needed for the project to come to fruition.

The biggest con job in our history. They do not even have enough funds to finish phase one. They want to run Amtrack on the tracks as they will not be electrified until phase two IF they get the money. It does not even meet the bond qualifications to use the money. But the HSR spends millions. What a joke. Except its not funny. In the Senate hearing the HSR could not even give answers. They just came back with BS replys. Those that are for it need to cough up the money to lay the track between Fresno to Bakerfield. Until then it need to go back to the voters.
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December 7, 2011 | 9:36 PM
Sounds like the "Dutch Flat Swindle," the accusation made at the Central Pacific Railroad by freight wagon operators who didn't want that newfangled railroad competing with their wagon roads. The "high-speed rail" of its day put them out of business.
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December 8, 2011 | 3:27 AM
Again specualtion versus actual written facts on your part William. Please stick to facts,
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edited on  December 7, 2011 | 10:17 PM
Yeah, never underestimate the construction and oil indusries that have profited from the status quo as we are left in the dust by every other nation on the planet.
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December 8, 2011 | 3:28 AM
Sp what your saying Lisa is a bunch of farmers was paid off by the oil companys to go against the HSR Lisa? Do you know how that sounds?
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December 8, 2011 | 3:29 AM
And by the way Lisa construction is union based. They are driving this project. Watch the Senate hearing and please inform youself.
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December 21, 2011 | 7:37 PM
After that bong hit, Stan, it sounded just right to her!
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December 13, 2011 | 12:34 PM
Everyone keeps making this assumption that HSR needs to directly pay for it self through the fare box. This is a red herring. How many new freeway lanes are directly paying for themselves? We need to remember that improving the transportation network (trains, roads, air, and so on) spurs economic development, so HSR can have big return on investment.
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edited on  December 19, 2011 | 1:03 PM
"How many new freeway lanes are directly paying for themselves?"

All of them. That is how fuel taxes work. Shipments and other commerce by truck move that much faster, as do the workers.

And they would even work better if the money was spent as intended, and not raided since the first "enfant terrible" incarnation of Moonbeam, often for programs having nothing to do with roads *or* transit.
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December 15, 2011 | 9:06 PM
Get some jobs going and making it look great with the construction of something major in California. We have to work to prove that not only Sacramento but also California are hard workers to strive on our economy.
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December 19, 2011 | 5:50 AM
Why would anyone in Sacramento want to spend their tax dollars on a railroad line between Los Angeles and San Fransico?
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