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The influence of Yelp on Sacramento restaurants

by Krissy Holst, published on November 20, 2011 at 4:35 PM

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With 2,624 Sacramento restaurants reviewed on Yelp, the capital city has thousands of restaurant-goers using Yelp to share their dining experiences with others. A recent study done by Harvard Business School Assistant Professor Michael Luca found that local restaurants increase revenue 5 to 9 percent per star they gain on Yelp.

The Sacramento Press wanted to see if this finding held true for restaurants in the central city. Comments and ratings on Yelp appear to make a big difference, but Sacramento restaurant owners and managers say they aren’t so sure.

Luca combined data on Seattle restaurant revenues that he collected from the Washington State Department of Revenue and Yelp ratings of the restaurants in his sample and found that no matter the type of restaurant, as long as it was not a chain, revenue increases correspond to ratings on Yelp.

Sacramento seems to have a mixed bag of restaurant owners and managers who agree and disagree with the findings of the study. Restaurants vary in both the attention they pay to their Yelp scores as well as the significance they believe the scores have on overall revenue and the quality of the reviews themselves.

“We email our customers who leave negative reviews on Yelp. It gives us an opportunity to rectify situations that do sometimes unfortunately happen,” said Mathew Parker, general manager of 58 Degrees & Holding Co. “We have had people sit in our restaurant and Yelp us at the same time. The good comes with the bad on Yelp.... I bet Yelp ratings do affect our revenue, but I am not exactly sure how.”

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Sacramento restaurant owners and managers who avidly follow their Yelp scores tend to agree that not every comment and star rating is accurate but there can be helpful critiques that are worth looking at.

“When we first opened, we checked it every day,” said Ryan Pierini, general manager of BarWest. “We definitely pay attention to Yelp and it most often supports the feedback we already get from our customers in person. We do have to take some Yelp reviews with a grain of salt.”

BarWest has made some menu changes since first opening. Fries coming with burgers is one of those changes.

“The complaints on Yelp were consistent with the complaints we had heard in person about fries not coming on the side of burgers,” said Pierini. “Yelp helps support what we already know and so we can make changes.”

Now, burgers at BarWest include fries on the side.

Luca’s study found that, by 2009, Yelp had provided the broadest review coverage of Seattle’s restaurants, supplying reviews for 69 percent of all the city’s eating establishments.


“We know that people are aware of our score and that it affects their perception of the restaurant,” said Noe Hernandez, general manager of Zócalo. “We don’t see people coming in though and telling us that they came to Zócalo based on our ratings or a reviews that they read on Yelp.”

Some Sacramento restaurant owners and managers question if people choose a restaurant based on reviews at all or if customers just hear of a restaurant because they Yelped for places near them with good food.

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“We follow our Yelp score, but we haven’t found that it affects our revenue. Rarely do I hear anything about the score of the restaurant, but I do hear about people finding out about us on Yelp,” said Aziz Bellarbi-Salah, manager at Aioli Bodega Española.

Different restaurants have expressed differing opinions on the importance of either star ratings overall or individual comments.

“We typically check up on comments when we look at Yelp, but we don’t pay too much attention to ratings. We pay more attention to individual comments and reviews and take that as constructive criticism,” said Michael Ng, general manager at OneSpeed.

Manager Mathew Parker of 58 Degrees & Holding Co. disagreed.

“The words and star ratings do not always match up,” Parker said. “People can post really inaccurate reviews that have nothing to do with a business and are just looking to complain. Yelp only shows a general trend of a restaurant through star ratings.”

Some Sacramento restaurant owners don’t believe that Yelp makes much of a difference in consumer choice and don’t spend any time looking at Yelp.

“We don’t pay attention to Yelp at all. We don’t really care about it,” said David English, owner and chef of The Press. “We may have guests come in because of Yelp, but how it correlates to revenue and if it makes any difference overall, I don’t know.”

Sacramento restaurant owners and managers are uncertain of the effects of Yelp ratings on revenue, but what does seem to be agreed upon is that Yelp is a force that is difficult to measure, and they are undecided about how important Yelp scores actually are. If Sacramento restaurant managers and owners pay attention to Yelp or not, Yelp is actively growing in both popularity and restaurant coverage.

The Sacramento Press took to the streets to find out when and how people are using Yelp, if they consider the reviews on Yelp to be trustworthy, and whether the website is as influential as some predict in shaping consumer decisions in Sacramento.

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Kenny Truong, a 29-year-old Elk Grove resident who works for the California Department of Health Care Services, said that he mainly uses Yelp to identify restaurants before trying them out.

Though he’s never written a Yelp review, Truong said he’d be likely to if he had an extremely positive experience at a business or restaurant.

Truong said he tends to stay away from businesses that get consistently poor reviews, but otherwise his decision to try out a new place is not highly affected by the number of stars on a restaurant’s profile.

“Most of the time I give businesses the benefit of the doubt because people have different tastes,” Truong said.

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Amanda Moore, 23, is a human resources administrative assistant in Midtown. While she said she often uses Yelp to find new restaurants, she has also written approximately 15 reviews on the website.

“I’m most likely to go on Yelp when I’m happy with a business or when I’m seriously dissatisfied,” Moore said.

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Jonathan Williams said he was inspired to write his first Yelp review after a positive experience with a new veterinarian he found on the website.

Williams, a 56-year-old volunteer at the Sacramento Gay and Lesbian Center, said he uses Yelp frequently and tends to favor businesses with the most stars.

Williams said he likes to do a lot of research before trying out something new and has found Yelp to be a fairly accurate tool in the process. So far, he said, he’s never gone to a highly rated restaurant or busines and disliked it.

Consumers should be cautious when using information found on the Internet, Williams noted. But he also said he has found most Yelp reviews to be trustworthy.

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Clark Paramo, a 22-year-old student at Sacramento City College, said he mainly uses Yelp to see what others have said about restaurants and businesses he’s been to.

“I like to read the funny negative reviews,” Paramo said.

Though he’s never written a review himself, Paramo said he does have friends who use their smartphones to access Yelp and post comments while sitting at a restaurant.

Paramo said he finds that the majority of reviews accurately reflect the quality of restaurants and businesses he’s been to.

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Dean Goding, 44, of West Sacramento, said he became familiar with Yelp through his job. Goding works at Mike’s Bikes on I Street in Sacramento, and he said he often checks the website to see what customers are saying about the shop.

While he encourages customers to comment on their experience, Goding said he thinks that others might use Yelp to purposefully hurt rival businesses by posting negative reviews, which decreases the credibility of ratings.

Goding said he also uses Yelp to check out new restaurants and tends to avoid the poorly rated ones. He has never written a review, and he said he prefers to show his support for a businesses in person.

“If I like a place, I’ll go back,” Goding said.

Kelly Priley, 31, is a mother and skincare products saleswoman. She said that she has found Yelp reviews helpful for researching service companies such as spas and salons.

Priley said she uses Yelp both before and after trying out a business, but that ratings don’t necessarily deter her from going someplace new.

“I’m pretty optimistic and open to trying things,” Priley said. “Maybe I’d be prone to go sooner or be more excited about a place with a higher rating, but I mostly use Yelp as a reference.”

Priley said she has submitted a few reviews but prefers reading other people’s comments to writing comments herself. If she likes a business, Priley said, she’s more likely to tell friends and use word-of-mouth advertising to share the news.

Overall, Yelp appears to be a popular reference regardless if a user submits a review. Though some admit to having reservations about the accuracy of reviews posted on Yelp, the simple star rating system helps consumers to at least identify businesses that might be worth a visit.

Is Yelp an effective tool for restaurant hunters and a financial benefit to businesses alike? Do you use Yelp, and if so, does it influence your choices as a consumer? Please share your comments below.

Margaret Hoyer contributed to this article.

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November 20, 2011 | 10:23 PM
YELP in HELL!
We pray to The LORD that YELP EXTORTION is exposed in the media and the US Supreme Court! Manipulation of reviews is extortion! We pray that our LORD shows no mercy for all the emotional damage and EXTORTION they have inflicted upon small business owners and the children they support. YELP is a brood of snakes and scorpions and deserve to BURN ALIVE for their extortion, lies and slander. PRAY PSALMS 119 FOR THEIR DESTRUCTION!
Say five times: "Archangel Gabriel destroy YELP Now!"
YELP WILL BE BANKRUPT SOON! ALL PRAISE TO YHWH! The righteous and powerful LORD of man and earth!
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November 21, 2011 | 9:28 AM
Take a sedative already.
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November 22, 2011 | 1:03 PM
OK, that's way over the top -- but I know one restauranteur (a legal immigrant from an asian country) who feared for his livelihood based on an implied threat from someone who conducted an investment scam that cost him tens of thousands of dollars, and he feared reporting it to the authorities because the scammer threatened to ruin his business with a barrage of unfavorable online reviews. So while this "jehova" person is way out in left field, I do believe that extortion does happen and it is probably more likely to happen where corruption and extortion is common in the native homelands of the victims.
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November 21, 2011 | 12:22 AM
^^WTF?
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November 21, 2011 | 1:04 AM
Oddly, that rant essentially captures the opinion of a small business owner who was discussing Yelp recently. I'm not suggesting they are related and if anything the comment here is a little tamer.
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November 21, 2011 | 12:04 PM
There is a big problem with Yelp. Fake reviews are common, good and bad, and business owners are harmed.
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November 21, 2011 | 9:02 AM
Nice article. I've been hearing more and more, though, that restaurants themselves are "yelping" and boosting their own scores thru fake names and such. Same with TripAdvisor and other rating sites. The New York Times had a story about that not long ago. So buyer beware!
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November 21, 2011 | 11:42 AM
But there's another complaint that has been made that Yelp tends to be suspicious (for that reason) of people who register and immediately say great things about a business - even to the point of removing those comments - while not being suspicious of immediate negative comments. Which is very one-sided. It's not unreasonable to think that a great experience at a business might prompt somebody to join Yelp and it's not against the spirit of independent reviews for a business owner to encourage happy/regular patrons to post nice things about their establishment.

The cynicism directed towards the new user making a highly positive comment has another potential effect: It's actually easier/more reliable for a business owner to register (or hire stooges to register) and make negative comments about competitors than to make positive comments about their own business. So any tendency on Yelp's part to remove positive comments they think are insincere doesn't solve the insincerity problem, it's just likely to make it more negative than positive.
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November 21, 2011 | 9:08 AM
I've personally known small businesses that have been immensely helped by Yelp, usually by making them more searchable. A small place off the beaten track is unlikely to get a lot of new business unless people are talking, or in this case submitting online reviews, about it.

From what the folks interviewed for this article said, it sounds like many consumers are willing to give a restaurant a shot even if there are a few negative comments about it on Yelp.

On the flip side: it also seems that if the reviews are ALL negative the restaurant is pretty much in trouble-- but if so many people have had a bad experience and were inspired to write about it, the place probably deserves it.
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November 21, 2011 | 12:07 PM
IF the reviews are true and not fake from competitors.
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November 21, 2011 | 1:33 PM
Can I get a cliff notes version of the article, I'm very busy.
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November 21, 2011 | 3:37 PM
As with any review system you can the most out of it the more time you put into it. In my personal experience Yelp is a fascinating and essential way to dig into a new city.

When in New Orleans I found it indispensable in locating a hip and delicious restaurant. and then several subsequent bars.

The star rating system is really only a jumping off point. I Start trying to find a place that has 4.0+ stars. If I can find a place like that after filtering for location and price, than we are off to the races. A high star rating while rare is no guarantee that a place is worth my visit, but it points in the right direction. After that the real key is reading reviews of like minded people. This really can help you decide if the place is a good fit.

Often times I feel bad reviews are the result of unmet expectations. Are you expecting a fancy white linen restaurant but you get paper on the table and lots of families with crying kids all around you? If that happens, no matter how good the food is, your opinion of the place will be more negative than if you knew more about it.

I'm sure I could write a whole guide to getting the most out of Yelp. And while there are many things that could be done to improve the site (litigation non-withstanding), my biggest problem with Yelp is that it isn't more heavily used outside the United States!
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November 21, 2011 | 6:33 PM
"After that the real key is reading reviews of like minded people."

How do you decide who is like minded, versus somebody who sounds like minded but who may be a paid reviewer?
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November 22, 2011 | 8:06 AM
The easiest way is to read other reviews by the reviewer. Yelp can be seen as a social network as much as a directory or ratings site.
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November 22, 2011 | 11:25 AM
I can give you a very specific example. Heat Shabu Baru. The reviews by people that went there trying Shabu for the first time, didn't want to drink alcohol and went as a couple, that's not a great fit for me when it comes to reading a review.

In that case I wanted to read about the people that did the all you can eat/drink combo. I wanted to read about the late night ambiance. I wanted to read about how the place worked for groups. For me Shabu is about a group outing, so reading reviews that catered to that experience were far more helpful to me.
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November 22, 2011 | 8:44 AM
The only time I use Yelp is when I'm out of town. I think too many haters post stuff to it and so you do have to carefully read through everything to sort quality, intelligent reviews from people just trying to get 5 seconds of internet fame. I have opinions and review restaurants but choose to do it on my blog because it's clearly defined as MY opinion on MY blog and therefore I can say whatever I want.
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November 22, 2011 | 9:18 AM
Interesting article.

One thing to keep in mind, the real difference in Yelp scores is fairly small. The best restaurants are usually no higher than 4.5 stars (there is currently only 1 restaurant with a reasonable number of ratings over 4.5, that one is the Kitchen) and the worst are rarely below 3, so the magnitude of the "Yelp impact" is limited.

Another thing to keep in mind, the Yelp score probably has a close correlation to the quality of the restaurant and an extremely close correlation to public perceptions about the restaurant. No duh, right? Well in terms of the econometrics that is a really big deal. Unless very effectively controlled for, what the study is likely telling you is that good restaurants, which happen to have good yelp scores, make more money.
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November 22, 2011 | 9:45 AM
Businesses can say they don't care about Yelp, but they certainly should. Whether legitimate or not, someone took the time to review you, and you need to pay attention. Many people do use Yelp to find good businesses, so ignoring it may soothe your ego, but it doesn't help your business.
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November 27, 2011 | 10:57 AM
Yep! Like it or not it feeds into perception of your establishment. To say you don't care about Yelp is like saying you don't care about my needs as a customer. Like shuttersue said below, you kind of have to read between the lines of a review to figure out if it's a genuine review or not. This article could apply to any social media platform really because it's main point is how do you measure revenue. Yelp, Facebook, Twitter are like the 'ol comment card left at the table to be filled out before you leave the restaurant. If someone leaves a negative comment, use that as an opportunity to fix the issue and hopefully get your customer back. Most times people are willing and want to come back as long as you acknowledge that their complaint was valid.
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November 22, 2011 | 9:49 AM
Yelp has been a very useful resource for me in locating an excellent dentist, plumber, masseuse. As others have mentioned, one needs to be able to sift through the valuable descriptions and the nasty rants. Or, for that matter, the wildly positive comments that are inaccurate in their own way.

To comment on individual Yelp entries, one may click on "useful" or "funny." Sometimes I would so like to be able to click on "over-the-top" or "get-over-yourself."
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November 22, 2011 | 9:55 AM
We had couple at our business who were loud and disruptive during our show. They were asked to leave (the crowd cheered). They were given their money back and we removed the charges on their credit card tab. Two days later we had a terrible review from them on Yelp. That review is there over a year later. As they economy weakens and people find they can get things "free" by complaining, small businesses can be hurt by Yelp and others who have no filter on what is true and just plain lies. I don't believe anything I read on Yelp good or bad.
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November 22, 2011 | 10:12 AM
For me, a bad review from any source will make me pause before I try a new establishment. I do look at the style of writing and try to determine if the writer perhaps has a grudge that may be overboad hostile in a review. A good review when searching for a new place to try is a number one factor for getting me to try a new restaurant even if its existed for many years. Coupons help too but only on top of a good review. Its risky trying a new place without feedback.
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November 27, 2011 | 11:56 AM
Bad reviews don't bother me too much for businesses. One thing I look at is the trend of reviews - you can see how the review average moves over time by clicking on the little graph on the review page. That's really helpful - if the average star rating is moving up or down, that tells me more about how a place is likely to perform more than the individual reviews.
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I am on Yelp. I use it every day! I try to write an honest review and what I thought of the place. I don't review chain restaurant places. I don't think it's cool to write a fake review or a review that has nothing to do with the service or food. I have seen some reviews where people review stuff the place itself has no control over or very minor. I think a ton of places benefit from using yelp because it's on yelp or through word of mouth. If I yelp about a place and it was great...you can believe I am going to tell my friends who are not on yelp about. Then my friends who are on yelp and haven’t been there I will tell them about it also. This will at least drum up some more positive business for the owner, I think it can be a great tool if used correctly.
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November 22, 2011 | 8:07 PM
While there may be some abuse by yelpers writing fake reviews, the chances those people are mathematically impacting the average rating goes way down with a large number of reviewers. Business owners that have to stoop to that sort of behavior are probably already on their way out.
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November 23, 2011 | 12:30 PM
Business owners and managers- do you respond to Yelp reviews, positive and negative? Why?Yelpers- if you have a bad experience, would you be likely to give the business another shot if they do respond? Why?
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November 27, 2011 | 11:52 AM
As a business owner, I love Yelp. Because of it, I receive phone calls and online appointment requests every week. It really helped me when I moved my practice here last year because people could read about what my SF clients thought of my work. That was a huge shot in the arm.

I have almost twice as many reviews of my business than show up on my page. Yelp filters out revewers without credibility. A reviewer with a single review who doesn't have any Yelp-friends isn't very credible in their eyes because they aren't participating enough in the Yelp community. Yelp is more than just a review site: it's also a social networking site.

So I always tell people who write reviews that if they want to have their voice heard, they need to make connections with others on the site as well as write a lot of reviews.
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