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by Chris Fryer, published on November 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM

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The fate of chicken keeping in Sacramento is still undecided after Tuesday’s Law and Legislation Committee meeting when Councilman Steve Cohn walked out and prevented Sandy Sheedy and Lauren Hammond from voting down the ordinance advocated by CLUCK (Campaign to Legalize Urban Chicken Keeping).

Cohn was the only supportive voice on the committee. “What I’d like to do,” he said, “is allow more work to be done and have an actual ordinance be drafted.”

Hammond said, “I have never been enthusiastic about the idea.”

Cohn replied, “If you wanna kill it, kill it, but I’ll bring it back when you’re gone.”

This was a disappointing finale for CLUCK as supporters were left puzzled by Cohn’s abrupt departure and left wondering if their efforts had been wasted.

Members of CLUCK discussed principles they’d written for proper chicken keeping, which address health concerns, zoning plans, enforcement costs and license fees.

Reina Schwartz, director of the Sacramento's Department of General Services, said the cost of enforcement for proper chicken keeping would be about $30,000 annually.

“There is no evidence of how this will change if chicken keeping was made legal,” Schwartz said. “It will shift the nature of complaints, but not the volume.”

Sheedy, however, said she couldn’t understand how allowing chicken keeping wouldn’t make a difference in complaints if keeping were to be legalized and the backyard chicken population in Sacramento increased.

“We don’t have the staff to support this,” Sheedy said. “Our animal control staff is pushed to its limit already.”

Some residents agree.

“My neighbors have illegal chickens, and it’s a big problem,” said Todd Harlan. “When the wind blows, you smell them. When they fly up on the fence, the dogs get them.”

Those opposed to chicken keeping in Sacramento were concerned about avian flu, which Placerville veterinarian Jeanie Smith claimed was unwarranted.

“There are more deaths by traffic accidents in Sacramento annually than by avian flu worldwide,” she said. “There have been six historical outbreaks, and none in the western hemisphere.”

Community supporters encouraged the council to consider the educational benefits of teaching children how to raise animals for food. Some claimed chicken keeping would create an economic boost. Supporters said the same city ordinances used for cats and dogs could be applied to chickens.

“Sacramento is behind the times,” State Director of Pesticide Watch Paul Towers said, “and we urge Sacramento to see the value of backyard chickens.”

“Eight of the 10 Forbes ‘Most Livable Cities’ allow chicken keeping,” CLUCK supporter Joseph Calavita said. “All different kinds of communities already allow it.”

With no progress made by this meeting, members of CLUCK will have to wait until January to bring the ordinance back before the new council.

“It seems that enforcement is their biggest concern,” CLUCK member Susan Ballew said after the meeting was adjourned. “There just aren’t enough city resources.”
 

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November 16, 2010 | 6:29 PM
Ms. Hammond continues to amaze me. After all these years she continues to make votes based solely on her own personal preferences. I guess she has never learned she is supposed to represent her District, not her personal agenda. Thank God we only have a couple of more months of her!!
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November 16, 2010 | 9:05 PM
You're sure right about that. I remember when she apposed a high-rise condo on J Street only because it would block her view of the Capitol Dome from her office. She later denied it but it's on record and in video. What a dumb woman.
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November 17, 2010 | 6:02 AM
I was born in Sacramento and so this article caught my eye. I am glad the people of Sacremento are standing up against bullies like Ms. Hammond. When will people like her learn that they are not there to CONTROL us but to help us acheive our goals. Bravo to CLUCK, keep sending your message. This week, it may just be the right to keep a few chickens in your own backyard and next month people like Ms Hammond might be trying to regulate other aspects of our personal life and business. One last thing.... no wonder California is going broke Ms Hammond thinks that it will cost $30,000 to regualte chickens a year -- sheesh, She is out of touch.
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edited on  November 19, 2010 | 12:29 AM
I can't believe the government circus performers still dragging their feet over something that will have almost no impact to anyone, let alone any governmental oversight agency. Do we need a governmental body to check on the welfare of cats which live outside too? Argh

Ridiculous but given enough time and support (and a few more egg recalls from mega chicken farms) and chicken owners living in the shadows will finally be liberated.

-Farmer Bob
sacchicken.com

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November 17, 2010 | 8:17 AM
I'm confused by the whole issue. Though I rarely see or hear them, I know there are chickens in Sacramento. What I hear and see are the dogs and cats that are everywhere, relatively unregulated. I can't go out on my patio without the neighbors dog barking. And what the stray cats do in my flower bed! But if I had a few hens next to the garden? No, that's illegal, like growing pot. I guess I'll have to continue exposing myself to commercial eggs, supporting their questionable husbandry.
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November 17, 2010 | 8:50 AM
Ditto man - you nailed it with that comment.
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November 17, 2010 | 9:07 AM
this may be the best comment ever posted on SacPress. damn that was funny!!!!
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November 17, 2010 | 9:30 AM
Great point wdgandy

if dog and cat ownership were subjected to the same level of scrutiny (and councilmember's fickle preferences), there wouldn't be a dog or cat allowed anywhere in Sacramento.
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November 17, 2010 | 8:40 AM
Good god, the city is arguing that LEGAL chickens will cost more to enforce than ILLEGAL chickens?! The city can't AFFORD to make chickens legal?! They seriously said that?!
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November 17, 2010 | 9:10 AM
a clash between Hammond eggs
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November 17, 2010 | 9:23 AM
LOL! http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true
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November 17, 2010 | 12:05 PM
Also notice that the article was by Chris "Fryer"
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edited on  November 17, 2010 | 12:42 PM
Flash Back Moment to Jo Anne Worley on Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In

"Is that another chicken joke?"

So chicken little, flew the coop, to fight another day w/ new CC members...yet to be determined.

Go CLUCK!
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November 17, 2010 | 1:05 PM
did he walk out or strut?
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November 17, 2010 | 3:16 PM
damn naga, that was actually funny. well played!!!!
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November 17, 2010 | 9:15 AM
Thank you, Cohn, for taking a stand and supporting a few hens for eggs! I commend you!

Sheedy and Hammond, it's apparent that you have done "zero" research into the keeping of regulated backyard chickens....get with the program! Backyard hens for eggs are becoming a part of cities and communities all over America! And they are all doing it a way that respects fellow citizens and keeps animal control from being overloaded.
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November 17, 2010 | 9:49 AM
I agree- thanks Cohn for taking a stand. I have friends and family in Los Angeles counties who keep legal chickens. Here we are in the middle of aggie land, and no chickens are allowed? Doesn't make sense...
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November 17, 2010 | 11:54 AM
Chickens should go over well in Steve Cohn's beloved midtown. And as usual, when things don't go the way Cohn wants them to go he will put his blinders on and fly the coop.
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November 17, 2010 | 2:14 PM
I know some mid town home owners looking forward to being able to have chickens in their backyards...
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November 17, 2010 | 12:24 PM
This is a cause worth supporting, which in this case means waiting a little longer for the message to sink in. If Cohn walked out in order to prevent a quorum from voting down the measure, it seems like he did the right thing to keep the issue alive.
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November 17, 2010 | 5:56 PM
i we should be able to keep our chickens . i was made to give up 7 chickens this past mo. in mt.pocono . pa ! why . well i have some one nx to me that cant see any1 happy they not only gave me eggs ! they were my pets ,, . they all had a name and they would come to me when i called them .. if you ever had a few chicken you know they are not noisey .. that was her last complant . the first was smelly . but since they didnt smell . she had to say something els about them ..i pay the taxs on the land so why cant i have my chickens >>
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November 17, 2010 | 6:04 PM
Chickens were legal in Sacramento until 1987 so we're just trying to repeal a stupid ban. Thank you Mr. Cohn.
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November 17, 2010 | 6:21 PM
good you go for it ! good luck ..the ban is stupid .. and they dont smell . or make noise .. !
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November 17, 2010 | 9:12 PM
The Chicken is a noble beast,
From top to bottom,
From wing to wing.
It serves us well, from egg to feast,
'Cept for that loud and boisterous beak.
-Col. H. Sanders
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November 17, 2010 | 10:02 PM
Sounds like some of you are new to our cause...good! Welcome. We can always use more support. Please join us on
Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Sacramento-CA/Legalize-Chickens-in-Sacramento/254012369886
and www.EATSacramento.org or http://eatsacramento.wordpress.com/
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November 18, 2010 | 1:25 PM
i talk to my zoneing board 2day . he tells me he wouldnt have had me give up my chickens if it wasnt for the woman nx to me ! he was very sorry ! but she wouldnt be happy unless i gave them up . she got her way ! but her day will come ! and i wont have to do a thing . wishing the best of luck to all that have backyard chicken .!
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November 19, 2010 | 10:48 AM
I just want to say THANK YOU STEVE COHN!!
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November 19, 2010 | 1:41 PM
CLUCK (Campaign to Legalize Urban Chicken Keeping) is looking to repeal the regulation against keeping chicken within the City of Sacramento.
There is already an estimated 5,000 to 20,000 chickens (no real numbers/estimate) in the city limits. A repeal of the regulations will not have a significant increase in numbers of chickens and no significant increase in enforcement costs to the city. I would suspect less cost.
Now, code enforcement would respond to a complaint, because it is against regulations, which would result in costs to the city. After a repeal of the regulation, code enforcement would only respond, "It is now legal to keep hens. Is there anything else that I can do for you?"
I am going to get hens, legal or not, as soon as I learn how to keep them healthy, happy and safe. My neighbors are looking forward to the bribe/eggs.
I know some will not be devoted to care of their chickens and maybe abusive, but does that kind of person really care if there is a regulation or not?
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November 23, 2010 | 11:26 AM
Screw 'em, become a guerrilla chicken-keeper.
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November 23, 2010 | 1:06 PM
Hey! Leave them chicks alone!
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November 23, 2010 | 6:14 PM
Thank you, Steve Cohn!!!
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