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What is wrong with The Sacramento Press?

by Ben Ilfeld, published on October 16, 2008 at 12:44 PM

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The Sacramento Press is an amazing tool. Our development team built the site from the ground up to be clean, fast and useable. But most of all it is a flexible platform. Why the focus on flexibility? Because we know that we will not get everything right the first time around. We know there are bugs. We know there will be usability problems and design flaws. We need your feedback. Our goal is to be responsive and flexible, not perfect. We strive to be always better.

Our operations are also designed to be responsive and flexible. We want input on how to make our terms of use better. We need your feedback about our privacy policy. We have posted both as storylines on the site so that you can comment on specific terms and begin the conversation.

Up and down our operation our goal is to meet your needs and exceed your expectations. In order to serve the public we need an open conversation with you. Please join me on this storyline and give us feedback. Just add your comment to the conversation section below. What do you like about the site? What is worng with the site? What plainly does not work? How can our terms or business model be better?

We pledge to be open, honest and transparent. As Operations Manager for The Sacramento Press, I pledge to be active in conversations about our site and operations.

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October 16, 2008 | 3:08 PM
I am not sure that there is anything "wrong" with the Sacramento Press. The thing I am most frustrated about is that there are not a lot of articles. I have had two different people ask me "When is the front page going to change?"
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October 17, 2008 | 9:15 AM
I have been hearing the same thing.

Our plan is to test our product and get feedback with a small group of writers and readers first. We do this by limiting our marketing efforts and focusing coverage on just one small neighborhood.

Over the next few days, we will ramp up slowly while learning from this target group what we are doing right and what we can do better. During this time we will invite an ever expanding group to test the site. The amount of content will be low. Our goal was to have around 30 active contributors posting comments and writing articles. So far we have met this goal on the dot.

Then we will begin a larger marketing campaign, but only in our initial coverage area. If you live in or around the Southside Park neighborhood I am sure you will hear from us. We want to get lots more writers and readers, but focus our efforts in a small area of town. We will still be a "beta," or testing, release.

For more information on our coverage area, see:
http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/256/Our_coverage_plan

For more information on what I mean by "beta," see:
http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/251/What_is_Beta

Over the next three months we have a marketing and editorial plan that works on the ground, neighborhood by neighborhood, to eventually cover all of midtown and downtown. Our goal is to cover these areas with much more frequent updates by February.

So that's the plan for the next few days, the next few weeks, and the next few months. If the plan goes as well as it has so far and we can work with our contributors to make our product better, then we will keep improving The Sacramento Press as we grow and generating more and more content.

Whew! I know that was a long winded one, but I want to let everyone know the plan. Thank you for the question.
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June 9, 2009 | 8:41 AM
Hi,
I just wanted to know if there is a means to:
change or add photos to a published article
a Calendar Page to simply announce events?
a way to search on help functions?

Thanks,
Jennifer
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edited on  October 17, 2008 | 10:12 AM
Ok, thanks Ben. Sounds like a plan.
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October 17, 2008 | 10:25 AM
Little thing really... when I change the picture for my user profile, it does not show up next to my comment box right away. It takes at least a few minutes until it propagates through. Not a biggie at all, but just thought I'd let you know.
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October 17, 2008 | 10:26 AM
btw....the correct, new picture does show up sooner if I actually submit a comment.
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October 17, 2008 | 11:02 AM
Thank you. I will work with our technical team to straighten it out.
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October 18, 2008 | 3:15 PM
When I signed in to become a user, I began to read the fine print in the "terms of service" box and another other box below it. I noticed a number of blank spots that are underlined, such as "Sacramento Press is committed to providing ________" and "Report to us at ___________ any content you believe violates. . . . ". Even though this is a Beta version, shouldn't the user agreement be fully filled out by you? Otherwise it may not be valid. Anyhow, boring as it may be, please double check the fine print in all your agreements to be sure there are no blanks. . . . . One maybe minor point. When I bookmarked the Press it had no Logo such as many other news sources have. Couldn't you create one so a visual symbol is next to the bookmark of the Press?
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October 18, 2008 | 6:27 PM
Issue 1: terms of use. This was a mistake. We had a reworked version of the terms of use but it did not make it onto the sign-up page. We consider this to be an important bug and will fix it asap.

For now, you can see the Terms of Use storyline storyline:
http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/23

It has the current copy. The terms are broken up as different articles; use the green "storyline" tab on the right edge of the page to flip between the different sections of the document. If there are any comments or questions you have with the current copy, or see a way to make the terms better, leave a comment under the appropriate section.

Second, the icon you see for bookmarks is called the "favicon" (this is short for "favorites icon"). We did not design one at first, but this weekend a graphic designer is working on it. Not only does it show up in bookmarks, but many modern browsers use it in tabs and next to the web address.

In both cases, thank you for your help. Each issue we discover and fix now will make for a better user experience for all as we grow!
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October 26, 2008 | 12:19 AM
Those issues are now fixed! We now have legally binding documents without huge blank spaces in them. We have also ensured that all of the places on the site that have the terms of use and privacy policy are all exactly alike in terms of their content.

We also now have favicons. If you don't see the favicons still it's probably because they are cached. This means your computer has stored the empty icon. Over time you will see the favicon.
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October 18, 2008 | 3:24 PM
Is there a glitch with your search button, or am I just technically challenged? When I type in the name "Ben Ilfeld" in the search box I get only one reference, "Contact Info". Why don't I also pull up the storyline "What is wrong with the S.P." and any thing else you have authored?
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edited on  October 18, 2008 | 6:52 PM
This is an important question.

I am extremely happy with the performance of our search engine, but right now it only searches articles and headlines. It does not search for authors or the contents of profile pages. We have a long way to in terms of building our search engine to full capacity.

I do consider this a serious design flaw in the current version of the site. We are working on the best solution to make search as easy and fast as it can be while including more of the writing on the site.
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October 18, 2008 | 10:27 PM
10-4. Thank you.
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October 18, 2008 | 10:31 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention re the search engine. Pogue's column previous to the current one talks about search engines. His main point is that it is wasteful of time to use a site's search engine to find what you want. He claims it is much quicker just to use Googles engine. For example, type in a book title and "Amazon" and Google will take you to that book in Amazon. . . . Anyhow you may want to read Pogue's article on search engines since this is an area you're in the process of developing
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edited on  October 19, 2008 | 2:53 AM
Fred, the only problem with relying on an external search engine like Google is that it will not have the latest articles in its search database. Google uses a piece of software called the GoogleBot to scour the internet for search worthy content. Any content added to the Sacramento Press since the last time the GoogleBot crawled our website will not be available in a Google Search. However, whenever content is added to the Sacpress site, our system updates it internal search database and will return new articles as soon as they are published. Once our site can search users, profiles, comments or just about anything, it will be a more authoritative resource on our content than Google.
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October 20, 2008 | 3:45 PM
The ever keen James Jordan has pointed out to me that the Banner in the right side of the header says "Write for Us", however when you click on it takes you to the home page. This is what he wrote:

"I click it - eager to learn how to write for Sac Press - and it doesn't go anywhere. And then I throw my computer out the window."

Hmm, that sounds like an expensive problem for him.
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October 20, 2008 | 10:07 PM
I agree. That banner is just a placeholder advertisement, but we should change the web address it directs to from the front page to an article on just that subject. Look for the change soon.
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October 20, 2008 | 9:35 PM
Yo, Ben, it take a while for an old fellow like me to get the lay of the land, and that is the case with your "storyline" banner. It's a tremendous achievement that wasn't apparent to me at first. I thought there was just this linear line of comments and replies like I'm writing in now, like there is in many blogs. Anyhow, my point is that I think the "storyline" concept and the specifics ways of navigating this feature of the Press deserves its own story on the front page. Some of us readers need to be briefed on it to begin to take full advantage of this feature. In fact, you may want to have a link on your front page that is essentially a "user's guide", so that readers can learn about the different features of the Press, and then they more likely will use them. At least this would be helpful for other tech novices like myself.
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October 20, 2008 | 10:21 PM
True. There is an article:
http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/243/What_is_a_storyline

RIght now you can find a lot of answers to your questions by clicking "help" on the green bar at the top of the page.

I would like to create a comprehensive user guide. And I want to have more help videos. For now, if people use the site and see it as a normal online newspaper, I am happy. Hopefully people will blissfully discover features that work just as they wanted. OK, that's a little optimistic. The theory is that we want to give people a chance to have an uncluttered, simple experience and grow to use more of the advanced features over time.

Well, I'm off to write more about how to use the site.
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November 4, 2008 | 3:16 PM
You know, it would be cool to have a list of ALL the comments I have left so it's easier to follow up on ones where people respond to me. The list on the profile page only shows my last 5 comments. What if people respond to my comments that I posted two weeks ago? I am spending a lot of time trying to track down my OWN comments to see how they create conversations.
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November 8, 2008 | 6:44 PM
Not a bad idea. I see at least two tasks.

1. The ability to track all comments for any writer.

2. a quick way to see what is new in conversations you've participated in.

We will be working on it. Thanks!
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March 27, 2009 | 1:55 AM
Joe, what an excellent idea! I would love to see that.

Ben, on that subject, also a feature that would inform me when someone has responded to my comments/responses. This could maybe be done with an email sent to me, or some kind of alert upon logging in.
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April 9, 2009 | 10:15 AM
Ben, is there any progress on this?
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June 6, 2009 | 3:06 AM
Honestly, not yet. While we really do want to do this we have to focus on the article creation process and layouts first.

It may be two or three months out. I will try to keep you up to date.
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December 5, 2008 | 2:19 AM
what's wrong?
i kept getting a system error (can't recall the exact message) when publishing
now i'd like to go back and edit what i published to add a couple more photos but can't seem to do it
was difficult to embed images in the body that had been uploaded, (by the way the flashing photo slide show is a bit annoying)
and i'd like to add another tag but can't seem to edit it once it's published.

finally shouldn't there be a field for a teaser?? you know, title, teaser, body?

thanks, other that that the site is great....
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December 7, 2008 | 11:34 AM
Thanks for the feedback. I am sorry about the system error. I will contact you and try to figure out where and why it is happening.

We do not offer the ability to edit published articles. Perhaps we will, but it was a design decision I had a hand in. We give the opportunity to add to the storyline and felt that was the best way to add more photos or follow-up on a story. However, we have had problems with people making some formatting mistakes and wanting to go back and change something. For now, contact us at support@sacramentopress.com and we can make changes as administrators.

In order to embed an image, the image must be hosted on another site. I noticed that you linked to an image on our site ant that caused the error. If you have a flickr account or some other photo site you can copy the image address from that site in order to post an in-line image.

The slideshow has a simple purpose. We designed the system to be as easy as possible and in-line images are more difficult to train a new writer to use. We left the option of in-line images for advanced users, but felt a simple slideshow would be appropriate for most stories. We left out captioning at the last minute because it did not work well when we tested the system. We are working on building out a better version in the next couple of months. Hopefully there will be an easy way to give you more options about how and where your images are displayed.

You can always add more tags to a story. Just go to the article and click on the "your tags" field below the rating and flagging buttons.

As for a teaser, that is a good idea. We never really thought of it and I'm not sure how we would use it yet or implement it. It would mean possible design changes across the site. I will look into it.
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January 23, 2009 | 2:55 PM
Can we subscribe and have the new articles sent directly to us? Love to have that instead of visiting...
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January 25, 2009 | 1:42 AM
You can. Go to the front page and subscribe to the RSS feed in your web address bar. You can learn more about RSS feeds here:

http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/346/What_is_RSS
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March 31, 2009 | 6:30 AM
I am unable to remember the password for my "real" name ID on SacPress and have asked a week ago if there i some way to send participants a prompt or user-update tool to reset the password but have been told no. This is very hard for us with sieve-like brains that can't keep all the pwords straight in cyberlife. Any chance that I could have me old, "real" self back so i don't have to be an anonymous nerd?
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April 6, 2009 | 11:55 PM
We will soon have a forgot password function.
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edited on  March 31, 2009 | 6:31 AM
dupe--i swear i only hit the button once! sorry
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April 1, 2009 | 1:53 AM
Where can I locate "Classified"?
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April 6, 2009 | 11:56 PM
Currently our site does not have a classified section.
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April 7, 2009 | 7:42 PM
The Sacramento Press censors posts...and comments... that's a big problem

Whats up with the search feature?
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April 8, 2009 | 1:46 AM
The Sacramento Press enforces its terms of use. Hate speech, vulgarity, personal attacks on other users, spam and other violations of our ToU, are the only things that result in content being taken down.

What posts are you concerned that we have censored? Please feel free to contact me directly about your concerns: geoff@sacramentopress.com

As far as the search feature goes, we have had a significant problem with our in house search and have temporarily substituted a Google search feature for it.
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edited on  April 27, 2009 | 4:24 PM
Nice platform, what is it? I'm in San Antonio and use Wordpress www.sa4mayor.com also operating in the public interest with an all volunteer crew. Check out our recent San Antonio first Virtual town Hall:
http://www.sa4mayor.com/2009/04/sa-tonight-you-made-history/ can you contact me off site?
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July 11, 2009 | 11:32 PM
So far so good. I've been to one of the seminars -- wonderful! -- and just posted my first article, an enthusiastic theater review of "Erratica: An Academic Farce" just starting at Capital Stage. Three things that would help: (1) How to edit something you've "published,' (2) a better sense of how much space you have and have left, perhaps a character counter that declines as you enter copy, and (3) feedback on the format and style of what I've written, and how it might be improved. Perhaps all of these are available, and I'll discover that as I get acquainted with the site. I'd also hope that I'll be notified by email when somebody responds to my article. Doing great, thanks.
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August 15, 2009 | 11:46 AM
Love the site. Have you considered doing a facebook connect so that we can more easily share stories we post and comment on with our network of friends there?
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August 20, 2009 | 2:47 PM
Thats a great suggestion!

We are looking into connecting out site with social networks and making things much easier to share.
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