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My experience building the Bulls downtown

by Shawn Eldredge, published on July 5, 2010 at 2:53 PM

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Building in the inner city – the old Midtown athletic club racquetball court – is headed toward becoming another of Sacramento’s popular inner city entertainment areas.

 

April Fools’ Day – what a day for a permit or project to begin.

 

The business owner had already posted her liquor license application about 60 days prior and received several letters in protest for which she had started the stressful mitigation process*.Once the conditions imposed by the Alcoholic Beverage Control were met, based on a few neighbors concerns living in one multi-unit Victorian apartment building— six units maybe – located behind the business in the predominantly commercial corridor of downtown. ( 1300 H street across from Brew it up & city parking garage )

 

BTW , this occurs after spending a good sum of money on a very detailed set of architectural drawings by DC Architects, bidding the project out, massive value engineering to fit budget restrictions, Then choosing and awarding the build-out to a contractor(me). And, lest I forget, paying planning review fees of $1,479 (and two more fees later in Plan of $140 each), building permit fees of $3883.80, sewer impact of $3878.40**, county health fees totaling $1,758, $1,500 to fire for flow testing and analysis, flush testing fees... It was time to start.

 

April 1 was a Thursday, and anticipating the arrival of the permit, I had already arranged for the concrete to be cut in this 1960s concrete tilt-up.

 

Friday morning, we discovered the secrets below the 1960s-era slab. (Mr. Burg or someone may be able to tell us what was once on this site.) We found huge old footings under the existing slab (approx. 6 feet in diameter and more than 6 feet in depth — we never saw the bottom, all of which came at the expense of the plumber and I (in our desire to move forward rather than fight for a change order etc.) had to be mitigated.

 

By Tuesday we were laying underground pipe; by Friday we were calling for inspection, pouring back concrete and cleaning up the site all weekend as to be ready for framing on Monday the 12th. Yee Haw! Up with the steel studs, rough electrical and plumbing.

 

As with all projects, there were many weird issues. We value-engineered the removal of the upstairs storage area for a project savings of about $20,000 or more. Because of this change, we needed to resubmit plans—Eeek. The architect and I headed to the Development Services Department.

 

It was 9am. We arrived and spoke with Ed Oswald, the recent appointee in place of Dan Waters. We needed to highlight and remove anything on the plans referring to the removed storage area, make copies, then get signatures from all disciplines.

 

We had the paper portion done by 11:30 or so yet still needed copies and signatures. Plan review is only open from 1-3 p.m. After lunch, we met with Mr. Oswald again. He was awesome . He made us copies, arranged for the individual plan reviewers to each come to the counter, review, and sign. I paid my $140 review fee, and by 3 p.m. we were back in business and ready for rough wall inspection by late in the third week of April.


I was fortunate with the inspections. I beleive I have a good relationship with most of the inspectors. It is obvious I don’t know them all, but most of the downtown folks for sure.

 

It’s my first building inspection at this location, and it’s a sheetrock nail inspection on a firewall (splitting the building in half, which needed to be complete and signed off on prior to our framing inspection, which was a day or two away).

 

The inspector, David Philips, took out a tape measure to ensure there were 8 inches between screws.I was not feeling good about our first encounter, yes , panic was setting in ( BTW there were 6 screws on every short side of the drywall sheets) I continued to show Phillips the rest of the project, my areas of concern and seek counsel on those areas, inform him of my upcoming schedule, and he signed off. Whew, first meeting survived!

 

After he left, the whole crew immediately asked what I did to make him so mad he would pull a tape measure on a drywall inspection. I played it off and went on in good faith.

 

We got the rough walls inspected by the 23rd, electrical and plumbing within the next few days, and then it was off to drywall (another sheetrock inspection with no tape measure this time ).

 

The balance of the project went pretty normally, had some issues with the sprinkler and monitoring system, as this was contracted with the building owner, and there were some conflicts in schedules as well as inspections on existing equipment, etc.

 

I had to submit for fire approval on an upgraded monitoring system, which took place on the Monday after the Thursday I had spent getting the resubmission of the removal of the storage area.

 

After getting fire sign-off on the monitoring system, I receive a bill for the plan review of $140 along with a second charge of $140. I question the second charge. The second charge according to Mr Oswald (once again the man in charge of the counter) said it was “From when you were here last week. We forgot to bill you.”

 

Hmmmm really ? I paid the bill and got back to work.

 

Things were progressing well, and it was on to finishes. Reclaimed lumber from the old cannery being demolished in the Township 9 Project was acquired and used.

 

I established a relationship with the owner of a mechanical bull manufacturing company and learned all about the equipment aspect (It uses a 10-horsepower electric motor running a Weg hydraulic pump) and the fine art of operating and riding a mechanical bull.

 

I discovered the little Knox boxes that house keys for the fire department are $300 and can only be acquired through one distributor with the fire department’s authorization. I also had a visit from three city staffers all doing the designer stare at the front of the building.

 

Sites, Crouch and Sanchez – all three deciding how and where the sign would look best (I never knew they were designers too).

 

In summary, the permit was pulled on April 1. We had our fire sign-off on June 15, which could’ve happened almost a week sooner had we gotten an earlier appointment from AT&T for the phone lines for the fire alarm.

 

That’s 75 days from start to finish for construction. Impressive, huh? I am impressed, and I would like to say it is due to my aggressive work ethic and talented crew. However, I am writing this to acknowledge all those in the Development Services Department (which has been abused lately in the press) who truly helped me every step of the way.

   Yes, the architect’s willingness to be so attentive to help mitigate every change or surprise requirement was huge, but just as much so was the willingness to educate me and my subcontractors in exactly what was needed to get everything passed and signed off quickly and efficiently by DSD staff. (Mr. Philips is now a valued asset, not a scary measuring tape wielding inspector).

 

Yes, Sacramento has a lot to learn about helping business owners do business in our city. However, the DSD has some fantastic folks who are very helpful, and I want to thank them as well as tell others that despite the cutbacks and bad press, overall we have great DSD staff we can be proud of.

   *This process is so scary for an owner; an entire business plan’s success or failure (someone’s lifelong dream, not to mention life savings in many cases) can hinge on ABC restrictions that can come from neighbors’ complaints (20 or one) or police department concerns, etc. Additionally, by the time a business owner gets to the point of posting, he or she has, in most cases, already signed a lease with a building owner or bought a building, as well spent thousands on a liquor license, building designs, architectural plans and other entitlements.

**Another weird, kinda-unknown is sewer Impact fees. They have to do with what was there before you as well what and how much you are going to be putting into the sewer. The fees are big: for a new small coffee shop, for example, they can be as much as $9,000. However, the city and its Economic Development Department in their wisdom and grace can also issue credits based on your economic impact to the city (e.g. how many employees and how much sales tax revenue is generated). There is a great guy (Trevor) there to assist in the calculation of these credits, thus your net fee.

 

 

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July 5, 2010 | 4:04 PM
Shawn, Great stuff! As the owner of the River City Saloon, I know first hand how frustrating it can be. I did 90% of all work and was at the planning department on a regular basis. They do try to help and my experiences while frustrating at times were great. They need check-off sheets to make it easier on small businesses looking to open so delays don't happen. All in all thumbs up to the city's planning department.

Stop bye the saloon and drop a card as we are opening a second location in 2011.

PS: Bulls looks great, and is fun , I urge people to check it out.
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July 5, 2010 | 4:20 PM
i will stop by Sean thanks, i truly enjoy my trade. ( as you may know i made an attempt at running for public office) I have a great passion for assisting small business owners and one of my priorities was to help create a small business advocate department in the city of Sacramento . With the ultimate goal of eliminating the need for a small business owner to not only be a master at his business but a master of maneuvering through the labrynth that is city hall. A check list would be great or an office that could look at your business plan and location then tell you all that would be required to make it happen and the estimated costs associated etc. . DSD does attempt but often seems to be overwhelmed with the particular task in front of them and unaware or unable to see ( or understand) the whole landscape ahead of the human sitting in the chair in front of them . One of the intentions of writing this article ( obviously ia m not a writer) is to bring attention to the stress and difficulty of doing business in our fine city without putting blame on a good group of folks in the DSD
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July 5, 2010 | 5:08 PM
i now understand why I see all of these small businesses looking ready to open..but remaining vacant and closed. This is the city's IMPROVED, business friendly approach? No wonder why there are so few locally owned start ups anymore (only national chains can put up with this bull). The city looks at them as cash cows...to be milked until they are dried up.

If there is ever a reason to turn out the city council, this story demonstrates why. I am appalled as as citizen of Sacramento, my city is doing everything it can to kill any progress.
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July 5, 2010 | 7:04 PM
Shawn, thank you very much for taking the time to write the article. It is excellent. Did I understand that there are still no checklists for anyone to follow? Those were suggested years ago when public meetings were held to obtain public input to improve Planning (now DSD) services. Granted, not everything can be covered by a checklist but a great many can.

They are extremely helpful to Planning employees and the applicant. Such lists tell the applicants what is expected to be completed (no hidden surprises or costs) and are a great help to speed up the approval process as well as a training aid for newer employees. But I guess anything so reasonable was asking too much of recently departed management.
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July 5, 2010 | 8:16 PM
Great case study! (Required reading for all DSD staff?)
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July 5, 2010 | 10:45 PM
Nice of you to take the time and compliment city staff! Quite often people see them as obstructionist, however, what they don't see are the benefits that come as a result.

We quite often read or see stories on TV about fires where the exiting was not adequate or some building component failed due to the lack of oversight and people die. Yes, the fees are high, it does take some time, but I'm glad they do what they do.

On the other hand, what we can not afford is the giveaway program that KerRIDge had going for the benefit of some. It was him & his buddy Billy Boy that gave the folks @ CDD a bad name. Under Gus Vina's leadership the system can only get better and even the counter will become more efficient I'm sure.

Thanks again for sharing & keep up the good work!
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July 6, 2010 | 9:00 AM
I too have had very good experiences with Ed Oswald at the DSD desk.

He has a sharp engineering mind, and more importantly is willing to think out of the box a bit to help find a way to allow projects to keep moving forward without compromising safety or legal requirements.
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July 6, 2010 | 9:04 AM
Interesting article. You make a good point about the ABC restrictions. It's crazy that someone's whole business plan - if it includes alcohol - can be dashed due to these restrictions. It seems like the fair thing to do in this case would be to issuse a temporary ABC permit & see how things pan out. Or have an annual review to see if things remain workable for the neighborhood. It just seems really ridiculous that someone from the neighborhood can block a permit based on what MIGHT happen. I'm sympathetic to a neighborhood's concerns for sure - it just strikes me there could be a fairer way to go about it.
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edited on  July 6, 2010 | 4:14 PM
These are excellent suggestions. ABC codes are administered by the state and very very rarely does ABC deny a license. License conditions are not based on "what might happen." There are hundreds, if not thousands, of cases in and out of the appeals courts over several decades that have set precedence for what alcohol related misbehavior does cause to residential neighbors' property and quality of life when such licenses are granted. Sad fact but true.

One thing that would make it all easier and faster for everyone is that the applicant notified neighbors of his/her intent to file for an on-sale alcohol license so he/she could find out their concerns and work together to address those concerns and voluntarily implement controls for inebriates' misbehavior. Typically, however, an alcohol purveyor will maintain that it is not his/her responsibility to deal with their drunken customers once those customers leave their establishment. Therein lies the rub..
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July 6, 2010 | 4:57 PM
Agreed about taking some constructive efforts with the neighborhood at the start. That's interesting to me that the ABC rarely denies a license - I wouldn't have guessed that.

So suppose there are one or two neighbors who flat out don't want a place that serves alcohol in their neighborhood - despite the efforts of the owner to address concerns? Is it more common that the permit just gets restricted to the point of the owner possibly giving up on the location?

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July 6, 2010 | 6:02 PM
It's actually more common than ABC approves with conditions. It is very rare that a license is denied, even over neighbor opposition. Part of the objective of having a business owner meet with the neighbors in advance is to make clear what kind of business is going in--is it a restaurant that also serves alcohol, a neighborhood bar, a nightclub? If the first thing people know about a new business is an alcohol permit in the window, what information do neighbors have about what is going on inside?
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July 6, 2010 | 12:02 PM
so what is the business going in?
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July 6, 2010 | 6:02 PM
It's called "Bulls," their gimmick is a working mechanical bull so I assume it's a western-themed bar/restaurant.
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July 7, 2010 | 9:38 AM
oh dear. well, good luck to them
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edited on  July 6, 2010 | 8:02 PM
mtscramento: Keep in mind that issuing an alcohol selling business license (on or off-sale) generates revenue for ABC to fund staffing and their operation. So they have a tight line to walk. Their share of the state's general fund is very small.

One or two or even 20 residents who file protests do not cause ABC to deny an alcohol license. ABC reviews conditions requested by residential neighbors and does not accept any that staff considers unenforceable or unreasonable. ABC is the final decider of those conditions and if a licensee agrees to abide by the conditions ABC finalizes, the license is granted.

It is also important to remember that obtaining a license to operate an alcohol selling establishment is the only performance license that a state grants without requiring the applicant to pass a knowledge or performance test which demonstrates the applicant knows something about the field in which he/she will be making money. There is no requirement that the applicant possesses the skill to operate such a business and employ individuals who will be dispensing alcohol.

As Shawn and any other contractor (general, electrical, plumbing, etc) doctor, cosmetologist, nurse, etc. etc. know, they must pass knowledge or performance tests to show that they have the skill and knowledge to ensure that the public is protected from the unscrupulous. An applicant for alcohol sales does not even have to demonstrate that they know anything about the various kinds of alcohol or the effects of alcohol on their customers.
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July 6, 2010 | 6:35 PM
Google my last name and check-out the website with my picture.
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July 8, 2010 | 12:32 PM
Shawn,
Thanks for this insightful article. Trisha and I have bought a building and will be expanding our business plan to include a gallery and beer and wine bar. We are right at the onset of this process you have laid out. There have already been so many costs with architectural drawings and there seems to be a fee or requirement every time I turn my head. It is very overwhelming. This is truly our life savings. I know most people have investors, but we are spending our own hard earned money. Going through this I understand why more of us don't open cafes and bars. It is Expensive!! Nevertheless we are on track and we couldn't be more excited! I am going to track you down for advice when needed!!!
-Olivia Coelho
Bows & Arrows
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July 8, 2010 | 1:00 PM
You do not state where you bought your building--totally commercial area or in residential. If residential within 500 feet and In the interest of not losing your life savings, be sure to convey your intent to your new residential neighbors. It will save time and money later.
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July 10, 2010 | 12:57 AM
there is alot of work to this process which you are embarking... and i would be happy to assist, i also think that now that you have mentioned it online it will be interesting to watch it unfold in or on a public forum . you have my numbers & emails introduce your self to Mr Kooyman if you do not already know him
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