When Holiday Travel of America comes calling...hang up and run as fast as you can. They may try and entice you to go to the Holiday Inn in Sacramento. They will entice you with a vacation to Hawaii, in which they make claim that they will pay for the plane tickets and hotel accommodations. They will also have a Las Vegas packet with free shows, free buffets, etc. All filthy lies. They want you to participate in a 90-minute presentation on Timeshares. They will have 3 thugs talking to you wit... PaulDaleRoberts 1singlemom comment-62518 2012-01-20T00:43:50Z 2012-01-20T00:43:50Z The trips are offered from Welk Timeshare if you opt out from purchasing one. You get to chose from multiple packages, albeit your stay is only 3 days, I considered they were giving you an opportunity to check out their property on the island to reconsider a possible investment. If you check through the BBB, there multiple complaints...too many to count, where you send in your deposit for taxes on the tickets to HTOA as requested from HTOA and the paperwork they have mailed to you, and provide 2 alternate dates of travel for them to accommodate you over the course of 12 months. They never seem to accommodate, and pretty much ALMOST never have returned anyone's deposits either. I was a bit disappointed to find out it was a scam and that they are not getting into trouble for it. So much for honest practices. Although I am reminded if it sounds too good to be true...it probably is. 1singlemom 2012-01-20T00:43:50Z elvis2b comment-36643 2010-09-11T00:17:26Z 2010-09-11T00:17:26Z I was a scmoe of the street and got a HTOA vacation to Hawaii for little more than a sales pitch from Welk Resorts. They offered me all I could eat snacks and beverages during the presentatrion. The property was beautiful and I had no intention of purchasing anything. My wife and I were only there for the free Hawaii trip. We never bought anything and left with our voucher. We have had an easy time booking and enjoyed a beautiful free trip. HTOA did a wonderful job making our trip fun. We did not upgrade and our only regret was that it was only 2 days. 1 and a 1/2 really when you look at the flights, but hey it was a fun whirlwind beach trip elvis2b 2010-09-11T00:17:26Z tiemermom comment-35819 2010-08-29T03:36:24Z 2010-08-29T03:36:24Z How about everyone getting a class action lawsuit filed against HOTOA? Is everyone in agreement? tiemermom 2010-08-29T03:36:24Z open4biz comment-33566 2010-07-26T21:18:45Z 2010-07-26T21:18:45Z I am a freelance designer for HToA and acutely familiar with their business model. As SacGal pointed out, Holiday Travel sells their packages to *other businesses*. That means that whomever gave you the rough treatment might have said they were with HToA, but they weren't. This is akin to being ticked at GM because one of their dealerships gave you a bad experience. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with someone who lied about who they are, but unless you were at their San Diego corporate offices, it wasn't Holiday Travel of America. Ansel Taft open4biz 2010-07-26T21:18:45Z Jim9876 comment-23332 2010-03-16T02:44:01Z 2010-03-16T02:44:01Z Hey SacGal, Did you read the entire article? He very clearly stated the poor treatment he received from HTOA. So, that would make them the CULPRITS. Jim9876 2010-03-16T02:44:01Z SacGal comment-21723 2010-02-04T23:18:05Z 2010-02-04T23:18:05Z Holiday Travel of America is an incentives/marketing company. They provide travel certificates, etc. to other companies/organizations. There is a lot of complaints online about how they don't fulfill those certificates, but they do not sell timeshare or give timeshare presentations and they do not sell to the general public. That being the case, I'm confused by your report since it doesn't seem likely that they were the real culprits in your experience unless there's more than one Holiday Travel of America in Carlsbad, CA. So my question to you is what was the name of the actual timeshare company whose "thugs" tried to get you to buy a timeshare? SacGal 2010-02-04T23:18:05Z