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by Anthony Bento, published on October 11, 2009 at 7:19 PM

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Participants in a town hall meeting on Thursday held at Caleb Greenwood Elementary School expressed skepticism and suspicion about the "strong mayor" proposal endorsed by Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson.

"I suspect that it [the strong mayor initiative] is a power grab, but I suspect that something will come out of [the town hall meeting] and I'll be able to make a rational decision," said resident Mike Montgomery.

The town hall meeting, which attracted about 50 people, included a thorough presentation of the strong mayor proposal that has been placed on the June 2010 ballot.  The presentation was by members of the Charter Review Committee, a group created by the City Council to research and draft an alternative to the strong mayor proposal.

Chester Newland, professor of public policy at the Sacramento branch of the University of Southern California, is a member of the committee who is opposed to the strong mayor proposal.

"A mayor with talent and community organization has the ability to inspire cooperation and communitywide participation," Newland said.  "The [strong mayor] initiative will reduce the council members to cyphers ... the mayor will divide them into factions."

Newland is a dissenting voice on the committee, which has recommended that the role of the mayor be strengthened.  A majority of the committee members suggested that the mayor be given the power to appoint the city manager, with the concurrence of the council.  The city manager, however, would remain the city's chief executive officer.

The strong mayor initiative would make the mayor the city's chief executive officer.  About 800 non-union city officials, such as the city manager, would serve at the pleasure of the mayor.

"The criticism [of the strong mayor proposal] is that is politicizes the staff," said committee member Alan G. LoFaso.

"A mayor needs a manager [who can] speak truth to power when the mayor makes a mistake," Newland said.

If the strong mayor proposal becomes law, the mayor would no longer sit on the City Council.  To fill this vacancy, the proposal calls for the creation of a ninth City Council district.  The proposal, however, does not specify how the district will be created.  The strong mayor initiative specifies that the mayor is to sit on the City Council as its ninth member and serve as mayor until the ninth district is created.

When asked when the ninth council member would be seated, LoFaso replied, "It is unclear."

The strong mayor initiative also requires that the mayor submit an annual budget to the City Council.  "If the council cannot agree to a budget, the mayor's original proposed budget becomes law," said LaFaso.

Other U.S. cities have enacted elements of Sacramento's proposed strong mayor initiative, but with a difference. "Most cities, when they went to strong mayor systems, created term limits," said committee member Cecily Hastings.  The proposed initiative does not contain such a provision.

Asked if the strong mayor initiative can be altered before the June 2010 election, Hastings replied, "The [strong mayor] proposal is set in stone. No one can change it."

The City Council has until March to place the Charter Review Committee's proposal on the June ballot.  If it is placed on the ballot, it will be listed alongside the strong mayor proposal.  

The proposals would not directly compete on the ballot.  Instead, each initiative would be voted on separately.  If a majority of voters approve both proposals, the one with the most votes becomes law, said LaFaso.

The Charter Review Committee's documents and communications are available at: cityofsacramento.org/charter.

 

 

To see an outline of the different proposals, click here.

To learn more about the strong mayor proposal, visit the Sacrament Press 'strong mayor' tag.

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October 12, 2009 | 8:21 AM
It's pretty amazing that what was supposed to be an explanation of the Charter Commission's work has turned into a bash-a-thon of the strong mayor initiative. Perhaps that's because the Commission's recommended changes were business-as-usual and nothing more than that.

The article is wrong in suggesting that the Commission was formed to develop an alternative to the strong mayor/council initiative. Actually, it was created (with the support of Mayor Johnson) to look at a comprehensive review of the city charter, including governance. Unfortunately, the Charter Commission -- composed of political appointees and many members who had donated to Mayor Fargo's campaign -- has decided instead to assail the proposal put forward with the support of more than 33,000 Sacramento voters.

A couple of points:

Ms. Hastings notes that the initiative doesn't have term limits. She fails to point out that neither does the Charter Commissions. Voters can end a mayor's term at any election if they so choose.

Mr. Newland wrongly suggests that City Councils don't have power under a strong mayor system. He ought to check in with New York, Los Angeles, and other major cities, where city councils and city council presidents (which Sacramento would have under the initiative) actually are empowered and do things other than approving what the city manager tells them to -- which is the case in Sacramento.
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October 12, 2009 | 11:47 AM
I'm not sure how a commission appointed by the City Council could avoid being "comprised of political appointee." In fact, "political appointees" are pretty much defined as "people appointed to a position by a politician." So I'm not sure why you mentioned this at all, other than saying "political appointee" sounds bad--but not quite as bad as the "secret cabal of developers" who crafted the "strong mayor initiative" entirely out of the public eye.

The Charter Commission is a temporary city body, appointed for a specific purpose--what would be the point of term limits? Although I would encourage you to look into that--most city boards and commissions do have term limits.

"Voters can end a mayor's term at any election if they so choose" is pretty disingenuous, it is basically the argument used against term limits at the state level too--by the status quo that wanted to avoid having to deal with things like term limits.

As the backers of the Strong Mayor Initiative have made clear, it's pretty easy to buy signatures (or votes) which puts the power to elect a mayor entirely in the hands of the people with the most dollars. Heck, for $150,000 I could probably find 33,000 people willing to sign a petition insisting that Steve Maviglio should be forced to wear a chicken suit whenever he leaves the house.

Slight kudos, by the way, for downgrading your previous assertion of 50,000 voters to the probably more correct 33,000.

The Sacramento city council isn't there to do what the city manager tells them to do, he is there to carry out their will. If he fails to do so, he can be fired at any time. The city councils in strong-mayor cities aren't there to approve what the city manager tells them to do--they are there to approve what the strong mayor tells them to do.

Although, in those cities, the strong mayor wouldn't have a vote on the city council (including the right to vote against efforts to overturn his own decisions), something that no other strong-mayor system has. And because of the structural problems of the "ninth district," and the lack of any requirement as to when that ninth district will be created, there is no time limit on how long that "temporary" vote could last.
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October 12, 2009 | 1:36 PM
Or perhaps it turned into a bash-a-thon because when some people are attacked they fight back. Well if that's not the pot calling the kettle black. Aren't you making it a bash-a-thon? Aren't you bashing the competence and labor efforts of the charter members? Didn't the mayor appoint a member? Exactly how qualified was he? He surely wan't hog-tied --he had a voice.
Or perhaps when some people oppose something they looked at comprehensively and they tend to voice their concerns and call it like they see it and someone bias - a campaign manager- will hang them out to dry so they speak out. and become more vocal.
Or perhaps the individual the mayor appointed to the charter committee should have spoken of your concerns and brought attention to any misgivings prior to the charter decision being made.
Or perhaps the assistant sitting in the audience at the charter hearings should have went to the microphone and stated the concerns since it was open to the public. I didn't see anyone stopping people from speaking (I admit I only attended one meeting but I was welcomed to go to the microphone and speak.) Seems someone is crying over spilled milk-- perhaps the campaign manager let the ball drop. If you didn't like the way things were going or didn't like the fact the charter commission looked at it without prejudice (and I know you'll argue that point) but someone- you an assistant, a volunteer even a community member pro Strong Mayor Proposal could have spoken up before now. I didn't see a gag order
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October 12, 2009 | 4:19 PM
Political appointees = hand-selected by a City Council opposed to the initiative. Did you really expect to get a result other than opposition to the initiative put on the ballot by CITIZENS other than "we hate it" when the chairman was a contributor to Mayor Fargo's campaign and was appointed to the commission that gave her pay raises by her? When local labor unions tried to pressure each council member to appoint their favorites? I would urge you to check the contributions/endorsements of each of the commission members and you'll get a more accurate picture of the fairness of their viewpoints. I admire them putting in the time, but let's call that kettle black on the political connections.

As for initiatives, you might want to re-think what you wrote. The overwhelming number of initiatives proposed never make the ballot.

And you're wrong about the city manager being able to be "fired at any time." It takes five or six votes (depending whether you go with existing law or the proposed charter commission law) to do that. Have you ever tried working for 9 different bosses? That's what the city manager has to do now under the current system. And that's why there's no bold vision for our city. Ray Kerridge does the best he can under the current system of governance, which, by the way, has been chucked by most cities our size (an inconvenient truth for you, I know).

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edited on  October 12, 2009 | 9:27 PM
I don't think you're commenting to me but I "really" did expect to get a result other than opposition to the initiative put on the ballot by CITIZENS other than "we hate it" ? You appear to be making this personal-- when it was business. I really do believe their were people on the board who want change but when they "unraveled" (because it was not transparent) the change proposed they chose the lesser of two evils- and let things remain the same. The chairman is one vote. And I would not dare insult his intelligence or insult his ability to handle this with ethics. I don't know him nor will I attack him. Having gone down to city hall repeatedly over the last 4 yrs I really don't think many of the councilmembers were pressured by local unions. Again, I don't plan on attacking their ability to look at this objectively but I am wondering about your ability to do so. While we are urged to check the contributions/endorsements of each of the commission members to get a more accurate picture of the fairness of their viewpoints SHOULD we also check the contributions/endorsements/ agenda's of those who put together the Strong Mayor Proposal? Where their is smoke their is fire. Come on now Mayor Johnson is not without skeltons in his closet. What about his loan which remarkable at the last minute became a gift?...Oh, what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive. The slightest deception causes people to stop and think and see that Fools rush in where wise men fear to trade. If a person cannot be trusted surely that person cannot be trusted with more power. That's SCARY
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October 13, 2009 | 12:41 AM
Local 39 put out a statement crowing about their influence on the selection of the commission.

Mr. Edgar, a former city manager, was a financial contributor to the Fargo campaign. He also was appointed by Mayor Fargo to the Citizens Compensation Commission, which recommended raises for the mayor and city council. Do you really think a former city manager would favor changing the city's government to a strong mayor/council system given his background? I'm sure he's an honest guy, but there's an inherent bias there.

You are welcome to review the contributions to the Mayor's campaign. it's a public record. What I was saying was that the Commission members had an initial bias from the get-go.
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edited on  October 12, 2009 | 1:12 PM
So... let's see if I've got this right. The mayor proposes a budget. In this budget he proposes a few million for say, The KJ foundation. He gets to vote in the counsel so he only needs 4 votes to pass it. The opposition now needs 5 votes to kill it. Let's say they get the 5 votes and kill it. Except that it's not dead yet. The mayor can veto it. The counsel now needs 7 votes to kill it and the mayor gets one vote already so he only needs 2 votes. The current city counsel could pass a budget giving the KJ foundation a few million while voting 6 to 2 against it. Now there's democracy in action.

The concept of a strong mayor in Sacramento may be worth a look in the future but not this proposal and not this mayor.
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October 12, 2009 | 1:14 PM
StevieGee- I could not have said it any better than you have. And your post allowed me to further understand the need to oppose the Strong Mayor Proposal. What a great job you did in breaking it down to give a clearer understanding.
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October 12, 2009 | 4:12 PM
No, that's not how it works. I would suggest you read the initiative. The way it works is just like when the President or Governor introduce a budget and the legislative branch (Congress/Legislature) work amend it.

If they DON'T agree, then the Mayor's budget moves forward.

Pretty much the way most of America works.
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edited on  October 12, 2009 | 5:44 PM
If the legislature fails to reach a budget at the state or federal level, government can shut down. The executive is free to veto the legislature's budget (and in the case of the governor, selectively veto aspects of the budget), but neither system contains a provision to implement the executive's proposed budget if there is a failure to pass a budget.

At both the federal and state level, the executive's proposed budget is more of initial blueprint; a blueprint that is often significantly modified or discarded entirely by the legislature. This is in keeping with a legislature's central power- the power of the purse.
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October 12, 2009 | 7:06 PM
"If they DON'T agree, then the Mayor's budget moves forward. Pretty much the way most of America works." WOW, THAT'S SCARY!
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October 12, 2009 | 9:00 PM
I surprised that people find America a scary place to live.
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October 12, 2009 | 9:33 PM
Tom, where was it written that "people find America a scary place to live?" I think you took my comment of "WOW THAT'S SCARY"- out of context- .. You looked on the surface- I'm a simple person but I'm not that simple minded and very rarely will you find me on the surface. Pain causes me to go far below....................
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October 13, 2009 | 12:44 AM
Anthony, with all due respect, this budgeting system is quite common in municipal governments. And it gives the Council a powerful incentive to produce a budget on time and balanced. And so it is with this initiative: the council can produce and pass a budget that differs from the Mayors.

What typically happens at the federal level if there is a disagreement on a budget is that the Congress passes a "continuing resolution" -- putting the previous year's budget forward until an impasse is reached. It's quite rare that governments "shut down." In my lifetime, I can remember it happening only once.
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October 12, 2009 | 4:15 PM
It seems the Emp-Mayor's initiative has no clothes- so to speak.
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October 13, 2009 | 12:37 AM
Actually, this is the way most American cities of Sacramento's size are run. Nothing revolutionary, just evolutionary.
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October 13, 2009 | 10:37 AM
Actually, it's not, it goes above and beyond "strong mayor" systems in other cities, with fewer checks and balances, more power for the mayor, and a structural defect that almost guarantees the city council will never override the mayor's will.
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October 13, 2009 | 10:43 AM
Actually, you are basing your example on the City Attorney's review. The City Attorney cherry-picked cities instead of providing an unbiased review.

You are simply wrong that the City Council won't be able to override the Mayor's "will." Read the initiative. It's no different than most cities.

You can read more about other strong mayor initiatives at the unbiased, nonprofit: http://strongmayorcouncil.org/
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October 17, 2009 | 4:56 AM
Legal analysis should be done by lawyers - not incompetent political hacks sucking up to fraudulent wannabe politicians who failed at virtually everything they've ever done in life, save playing a ball game on a wooden floor... supported largely by underworld money and antitrust protections bought through collusive arrangements with lobbyists and the politicos they back...
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