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U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan hosts town hall forum

by Jonathan Mendick, published on September 3, 2009 at 8:20 PM

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Upon Mayor Kevin Johnson's invitation, U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan came to Sacramento Thursday to discuss his views on charter schools and education reform. He also met with Sacramento legislators, students and teachers, before answering questions in a town hall forum.

A little after 5 p.m., Johnson introduced Duncan to a public audience who gathered inside Sacramento's Central Library. In a five-minute speech, he outlined Duncan's resume as a Harvard graduate and superintendent of Chicago's Public Schools.

"I'm more excited about the state and the potential of what we can do in this country with the leadership of President Obama and U.S. Secretary Arne Duncan," Johnson said. "They are talking about some bold reform ideas that I think we all know make good sense."

Duncan took the microphone to a round of applause and gave a 10-minute speech. He also posed questions such as, "How do we as a country get dramatically better (in education)?" and, "How do we educate our way to a better economy?"

"California is a big deal, hold(ing) one eighth of the United States' students," Duncan said, adding, "How California goes, the country goes."

"We want to invest north of $10 billion. We've never had this kind of discretionary money to invest in states, districts and nonprofits to help close the achievement gap. It's a time of tremendous opportunity," he explained.

Then he opened up the floor for 30 minutes of questions.

When asked about his opinion on charter schools, Duncan said, "I'm not a fan of charter schools. I'm a fan of good charter schools."

"What we need in our country is more good schools, and a number of things have to happen; charters are a piece of the solution - never the solution," he added.

Another community member asked what Duncan thought about promoting arts in schools.

"It's always the arts that get cut when money gets tight, (but) it's often band, choir, musicals, being on a sports team, being on a debate team that keep children in school," he said. "We cannot afford to narrow the curriculum, and (teaching the arts) is one the best underutilized strategies for keeping children in school."

Duncan also addressed a question on how to engage parents to be a part of the learning process. "Parents are always going to be kids' first teachers, and they're always going to be their most important teachers," he said. "When parent's aren't engaged or they're fighting the teachers, they're part of the problem."

"We need to do as much as we can to challenge parents to meet us more than halfway," he added.

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edited on  September 3, 2009 | 9:43 PM
Jonathan, that's very good coverage and a good encapsulation of the event. There's much more that went on and more to think about. It was well worth attending.

Kevin Johnson began by referring to other town hall meetings and how this one would be different, we would have "respect and dignity."

Interesting word choice: I was forced earlier today to point out that the mayor's spokesman apparently has "no dignity in how you represent the Mayor of Sacramento as his spokesman" on SacPress.

To the mayor's and Education Secretary's credit, with an online RSVP it was not difficult to enter the Town Hall and the questions from attendees were not prescreened. The discussion was varied and interesting. The secretary's answers were rapid fire and generally directed to the actual question. The canned aspect to some of his comments was forgivable after a full and busy day meeting with various education groups.

No one stood and asked the key questions about Mayor Johnson's record at Sacramento Charter High School and how he can claim to be an "Education Mayor" with a straight face. No one wants to pull at the Emperor's Invisible Robes.

Let the mayor's office extend similar courtesy, "respect and dignity" to the public on SacPress. The public may have an opportunity here to ask the unwelcome questions that inconvenience the Strong Mayor's agenda. Let us discuss the issues without the mayor's office sending an attack dog to piss all over open discussion.
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September 3, 2009 | 11:35 PM
Kevin Johnson's prominence at an event on education is like Dick Cheney hosting a peace rally... The hypocrisy of this clown mayor knows no bounds...
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September 4, 2009 | 9:15 AM
wow, just wow.
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September 4, 2009 | 6:34 AM
I wonder what the bold reform ideas are that everyone but me knows about? What is Mr. Duncan going to spend $10 billion on? Hopefully some of the funds will go toward educating parents that education starts at home and schools and teachers can't perform miracles. These politicians throw around figures as if they are paying the money out of their own pocket.
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edited on  September 4, 2009 | 12:50 PM
JFD, not a lot of specifics were presented in the town hall meeting. Sect. Duncan did emphasize the point that you make, regarding family involvement. He talked about having schools open for more hours of the day, so the facilities can serve as public resources for community activities.

His breakdown of "throwing around figures" was $5 Billion for ECE, $70 Billion for K-12 and $30 Billion for college.
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September 4, 2009 | 11:34 PM
Throwing money around works really well.... look how much we have spent... and look where it has gotten us... Marion would double the education budget if she could and bankrupt our state... and the kids would still come out as morons.

Until the root causes of the failures of our education system are addressed...nothing will change...well..except that unionized teachers will get raises.
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September 5, 2009 | 12:19 AM
JimKnapps false accusations and personal attacks are based on the voices in his head and do not contribute constructively to SacPress.
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September 4, 2009 | 11:15 AM
I've always found in my life experiences that you can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

Having served my country honorably for 29+ years in both the capacity as a United States Naval officer and enlisted man I never forgot the mission of service to my country on a 24 hour and 7 day per week basis, and how we solved problems. To fix issues, we served the United States of America as an unified team.

My feeling is that if you want to eradicate problems, and if you want to help solve the education issues in Sacramento, then please make yourself available to help the mayor fix the issues by serving as a volunteer to him and the City of Sacramento. The mayor has meetings that are open to the public where you can sit down with him 1-to-1 to present your thoughts to him. Again, if you want to help address and solve the education issues related to children in the Sacramento region, then I highly suggest that you present yourself to Mayor Johnson face-to-face at his open meetings and give him solutions to the problems that you see with education.
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edited on  September 4, 2009 | 12:42 PM
The Mayor of Sacramento has no jurisdiction over public education. Mayor Fargo tried to explain this to Kevin Johnson during the debates.

Some in the community object to him spending his time on things he is not, as Mayor, charged with. Some in the community object that, with his tarnished record at Sacramento Charter High School (St. HOPE), he claims to represent education at all, as bbbbmer pointed out above.

"His" city still does not have a comprehensive public high school to replace the historic public high school that was given to Johnson (illegally) to turn into a charter school. Students in all the neighborhoods north of Broadway (within City limits west to east) in "his" city DO NOT HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL.

The absence of the central city's comprehensive high school -- 5 years after a Court order that SCUSD provide one -- strains all the other high schools beyond capacity, forces long trips to faraway schools for students and families, breaks up communities, forces families to choose schools they don't want and forces more students toward charter schools.

Kevin Johnson benefited from his charter school franchise and reached the Mayor's office. The Mayor's office should not be used to benefit Kevin Johnson's charter school franchise. His agenda for charter schools should not be forced down the throats of Sacramentans by the Mayor's office, any more than it already has been by the SCUSD and enablers at the local daily paper.

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September 4, 2009 | 3:42 PM
"Some in the community object to him spending his time on things he is not, as Mayor, charged with". Excellent point. Message to Obama?
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September 4, 2009 | 6:58 PM
i want no part of this mayor's program to grab power and take over schools, given his record, both past and present... Mindless service to corrupt authority is not being a good citizen -- it's just plain mindless.
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September 4, 2009 | 2:20 PM
Marion- you are absolutely right. Kevin Johnson sees money. Unchecked money. Just like Villaraigosa in LA, he has a charter school franchise and he wants to charter the entire district. He can only accomplish that goal as a strong mayor. He does not care about the city as evidenced by most of his time and attention are going to the strong mayor push and education "reform". Two things that have nothing to do with the job his was voted into. I get more disgusted with this taxpayer money diverter/abuser everyday. Does he do anything with his own money other than loan it to his pet causes so he can be repaid with tax dollars?
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edited on  September 4, 2009 | 11:37 PM
Are you smoking crack? How would being a Strong Mayor give him ANY ability to charter more schools...

Please explain in detail how he is going to accomplish this?
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September 5, 2009 | 12:45 PM
Wow, Jim. Look up Mayor Fenty of DC, look up Mayor Bloomberg, NY, look up Villaraigosa of LA and look at what they're doing with "education reform".Look at Kevin's "White Paper" on education reform. Here's a quote:

"Many of the aforementioned leaders also stressed the pivotal role city leaders can play in education, sharing their experiences in systems with strong mayoral involvement in the public schools."

The above mayors all eliminated school boards and took over control of the schools. All of the above mayors push the charter school agenda as true "reform". Look, if you're going to attack people on this board, you should at least educate yourself on who and what you're talking about. I'm surprised you have not figured out the connection yet. While you're researching on Google, (I know you're a fan), look up Democrats for Education Reform. They're all connected. AL sharpton, Kevvy, Joel Klein, Michelle Rhee (Kevin's girlfriend and former employee), Mayor Fenty, Mayor Corey Booker, Mayor Bloomberg, Mayor Villaraigosa, Kevvy's auditor friends Alvarez and Marsal,etc, etc. It's an incestuous little group.

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September 5, 2009 | 1:03 PM
Jim, I forgot to add...Have you read about Villaraigosa and the LA schools yet? Villaraigosa is a charter school operator, just like our mayor. He's pushed and gotten charter schools to take over 1/3 of the public schools. I'm sure he'll get rich off of this in some twisted, backward, sneaky way. I think choice is important, but I want it done right without destroying public schools in the process because it'll just revert back. If public schools go by the wayside as many like you hope they do,the underperforming kids will flood the new charter schools because they won't have anywhere else to go and the schools will be faced with the same problems as regular schools face. Charter schools are just a band-aid and don't fix or address students whose parents don't choose to choose. Until we address the core issues which are parents who don't care or who don't fully support their kids education, nothing, and I repeat nothing, will work.
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edited on  September 4, 2009 | 2:30 PM
Great article Jonathan!

It's my understanding that the Obama Administration is trying to get California to compensate teachers based upon performance. In part, the stimuls grant money is used as a carrot to help prod the state leglislature to make politically difficult decisions.
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September 4, 2009 | 7:06 PM
Teachers are already one of the most overscrutinized employment classes in existence with enormous checks and balances in terms of rooting out poor performers and retaining those who are effective. Pointing public attention to this issue is merely pointing the public eye toward yet another bright shiny object to deter from the REAL intention of charterization and gutting funding for public education instead of fully funding front line teachers and right-sizing bloated administrations.

Charterization is NOT the answer, especially given Kevin Johnson's disastrous 'leadership' of the St. Hope can of worms, now under federal investigation for obstruction of justice which may result in an indictment against this sitting mayor. Charters are effective for very limited purposes, such as schools for technoligical skills or the creative arts, and SHOULD receive public support. But when public money is siphoned off with the strategic goal of undermining the collective bargaining power of the people who do the heavy lifting for educating the next generation of Americans, this is immoral and anathema to progressive remedies for the overwhelming difficulties public education faces.

I doubt those seeking the results charterization advocates pursue would enjoy being on this poorly thought out strategy's recipient end.....
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edited on  September 5, 2009 | 5:32 PM
Do teachers still get the summer, weekends, evenings, and holidays off work? Do they get benifits? Anyone know for sure how their hours worked stacks up against compensation? Very curious....
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September 4, 2009 | 8:53 PM
Union busting is a big part of this agenda.

"But when public money is siphoned off with the strategic goal of undermining the collective bargaining power of the people who do the heavy lifting for educating the next generation of Americans, this is immoral and anathema to progressive remedies for the overwhelming difficulties public education faces. "
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September 4, 2009 | 10:14 PM
We should not lost sight of the importance of giving quality education for all people as a humane right, including teaching basic literacy to all our peoples. What are you doing to help educate people? It is always easier to knock someone else down than to examine our own role on a personal level.
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September 4, 2009 | 11:42 PM


We do not need to GIVE quality education for "ALL PEOPLE" just the ones that are here legally...
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September 5, 2009 | 5:58 AM
Unless we are of Native American origin, we are ALL 'immigrants' or their descendants in one way or another...
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September 5, 2009 | 7:50 AM
We cannot blame all of the lack of education on to the teachers. The parents have to support the teachers and help to see their child does his home work. Some parents need motivation to do this. One way would be to deduct part of the welfare check if your child misses school more than so many days without a doctor's note of sickness. Also if the home work is not returned and signed by the parent, a deduction of welfare would be taken out.

I would say the best way to teach math is still the flash card system. any child who does not have the additon memorized by the end of 1st grade would need to have summer classes or some way be taught them before entering 2nd grade. Same be true for subtraction iin 2nd and multiplication in 3rd and division in 4th grade. Calculators of little value if the child does not know the basics themselves.

When the young parents of this country take God seriously and start to ask God's help in raising their children, and obeying God's word this country will be on the mend.

All people need to realize that God did indeed create this world and make every human being. He loves them all and wants the best for everyone. But he does not force his will on any one , each person has to allow God to help them.
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